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00:20 You know, gets a little tougher my favorite, the acoustic block,

00:26 ought to be interested in uh has uh including the kitchen sink and the

00:34 and doors in the kitchen uh that vaccinated. So a lot of really

00:39 physics, um glass half part of and everything is involved, the glass

00:45 everything involved. So um I'm not this is really true, but uh

00:54 matrix is known and, you you don't have a gas, then

00:57 lot of times you will run similar , which just because it's the easiest

01:02 interpret. So it probably gives you best number of uh independent. Then

01:10 have seen uh carbonate people. Um build models that basically had more than

01:18 logs in interpreting theology. So trying get some of the lesser on the

01:25 but and it was over i another . Yeah. So um and there

01:35 , you can take classes now, general classes where you take a whole

01:39 of blogs and interpret about people doing analytics to cover that, things like

01:47 where you any number of blogs, ? You get it be a little

01:57 because they get over. So, velocity can be determined. Uh This

02:03 think is emphasized right now. It's of multi mineral models. There

02:09 for example, has modules that enable to do that. Uh People in

02:15 class experts in data analytics. Did ever use data analytics? Do you

02:21 any interest in using data analytics? , you might want to, it's

02:26 be uh it's it's gonna be tools you really need to bring to bear

02:30 long as you use them correctly. any uh data analytics integrate just gets

02:37 . I bring that up at other , don't make sense to do uh

02:42 blogging. Uh Again, widely time historically including myself spw a paper with

02:52 , use it when appropriately and when appropriately. It's OK. The physics

02:57 all wrong. It's actually ridiculous physics using it is interpretation to it's a

03:05 fit to the acoustic blog and uh the dependence of it. It's not

03:11 density neutron is uh fantastic indicative of . What we talk about. Hopefully

03:19 understand in detail why basically they have responses and gas. So a separation

03:29 it really is a good gas And then yeah, you could see

03:35 show some examples of that, when can see the change and shale clays

03:43 every log, by the way, same down, right. So the

03:49 we could talk about the detail of clays affect all of the porosity logs

03:54 more or less particularly acoustic log in very complex way. And also the

04:01 new dr they like that you need think about light and their impact on

04:11 aspects of the, the it's got huge impact. So uh might cross

04:21 the reason that you do that um tools, all of them are compensated

04:27 been compensated for a while. If talk about what a compensated tool,

04:35 a good time to do it to it up. The tools all started

04:38 as would say, basically a single . And then what they do is

04:44 add, they've added a second detector all of them density to the

04:54 And what compensated me is that you those two detectors, you're gonna use

04:59 ratio of them uh typically uh some of two to actually remove uh the

05:08 loss. And whenever you have a , you also you have a slope

05:12 that correlation and then you have to the correlation of the plot that's gonna

05:17 the inner something. So what will to drift far more than any measurement

05:23 all the lab measurements, right, offset will be around pressure trans.

05:31 if I can minimize the impact of , right, it should be by

05:35 the difference. For example, the they all go away which are slow

05:41 remain much less. So we'll see their tools, they basically use a

05:49 of the difference. The reason for is that part of the calibration is

05:57 fact that its temperature with all kinds compensating tools are much uh newer

06:06 Uh li density. This is where would change its drive long space acoustic

06:17 actually so not new. People used for a while and they very rarely

06:24 . Most of that was a really know very much full wave

06:33 Uh So die Sonic, et That's kind of probably the most,

06:41 just that you get much better. of the reasons you get much

06:45 she get a full away, you that the case. All kinds of

06:50 things are related to that. That's pretty common. Now, all the

06:58 have gotten lighter, cheaper, more people wanted to go deeper things get

07:03 , et cetera. Then the last we're gonna cover, which I like

07:08 cover last as it together. A of the concepts of the. So

07:13 , we will, it's kind of good review of the things we talked

07:17 . We really haven't thought about. kind of a summary of what.

07:25 let's start with the uh compensated density the lift the density log, there's

07:33 radioactive source which makes it not much to stick, stick a radioactive

07:39 And what does that mean to your ? Not much good. It's a

07:46 source. You're not allowed to go and grind the tool up.

07:49 Kind of a bad idea. People are afraid of getting the radioactive

07:55 to your groundwater. If you don't it, I don't want it.

07:59 . So, you have to fish this thing. Uh, usually at

08:03 a few days before you can give . And then if you don't,

08:08 , fish it, you actually have plug and abandon that section of

08:12 well, you have to plug past tool, right? And then you

08:16 to go in, you still have money to complete the, well,

08:19 gonna sidetrack so it costs you lots money. So um we'll see with

08:26 new trio, they actually found a around and Frank, you still have

08:30 gamma ray detector related to it. simulation counter. If you look

08:36 at the uh what happens with the gamma rays, uh There's a,

08:42 a, there's a pad tool. is because the depth of investigation of

08:46 gamma rays is very. And then here's one of the main points of

08:51 physics and one of the answers I expect you to give on your final

08:57 is that it measures basically electron Remember what the SP tool measured?

09:07 think you remember it, I hope was a resistivity contrast of the mud

09:13 , right? And your and your , right? So there is the

09:19 there here you are measuring electron you measure it via in the compensated

09:26 , a comp scatter. I don't if you had this, possibly even

09:32 your high school physics class I like in your sophomore level physics. If

09:38 basically the electromagnetic radiation gamma ray is example of fairly high frequency. Uh

09:46 can, that can interact with a particle. So you literally can scatter

09:51 boton off an electron. So what happen is your gamma ray will lose

09:58 and your electron gets kicked off something ? And so it will the energy

10:04 the gamma. Then I'll, I think I have a picture of

10:10 but it will continue to scatter off until ultimately, the energy gets low

10:16 that you will have photoelectric absorption. your gamma ray energy becomes comparable to

10:22 K shell electron and and an atom then it gets absorbed and it's

10:29 So uh this brings up another point versus absorption scattering is always, always

10:38 , less li dependent than absorption. the competence scattering is a good thing

10:47 that you won't get a whole lot li patient, not nearly what you

10:52 out of total electric absorption. That's whole point of the tool. It's

10:58 photoelectric absorption rather than its content So the answer for uh compensated

11:09 what is it measuring? Yeah, measuring electron density. Then the assumption

11:16 be that the electron density is proportional the density. That's how we get

11:25 it. That, that's how basically that assumption, it's actually pretty good

11:30 not exactly true. This is part the biology dependance here. It's the

11:37 that that isn't exactly true. then absorption, this is dramatically,

11:44 mean that the primary use of that to live the density tool which is

11:51 that is to get independent of. this is my point, my electron

12:00 is proportional to the. So I ask you basically, this is called

12:09 , this is called a cross This is a volumetric absorption uh or

12:15 a cross section photoelectric cross section related that. And that's just a probability

12:22 the gamma ray gets. It's just in an area, but it's called

12:27 cross section. It's just units of scrat them. That was a physicist

12:35 sense of humor where that unit was big, it was as big as

12:40 barn fine that helps you work. . So the compensated density, as

12:50 mentioned, we do this at high before things get absorbed. So we're

12:55 measuring scattering effects or clot is here through uh that's relatively worth biology

13:03 Again, this thing doesn't seem very , the gamma rays don't get very

13:07 . So mud cake has a very part of this tool. And so

13:13 will primarily one of the primary In fact, it's so important to

13:18 it on the log, right. , will be uh mud cake correction

13:24 wash out with ghost. Nobody knows a ghost means. This big washouts

13:30 real irregularly shaped organs. So, at mid densities, right? Uh

13:38 roughly four inches, even pretty easy have a couple inches of mud

13:42 So you really can have a significant . Uh lower densities and slightly greater

13:49 higher density is slightly less. So brings up, uh is that obvious

13:55 you why that would be so primarily is, that's a leading question?

14:01 somewhat rhetorical, right? So, what, what are you measuring,

14:05 measuring an electron density? What's the typical density of a rock? Let's

14:12 because it's kind of the middle What's the density of water?

14:17 So what we already have probably a of three OK or rock. How

14:24 the fro it's maybe 25% of the volume. So we have a factor

14:31 three times a factor of four, or take three are in order of

14:36 more sensitive to the amount of rock we are the four fluent. So

14:42 tool because it measures electron density is measure the amount of rock in the

14:51 . I find that opposite to the Trump, discuss that story. So

14:57 quite important because it gives you insight all of the effects of the

15:03 right. So at at lower bulk , this makes sense, it would

15:10 further because the density is less, less electrons and the gamma rays will

15:14 deeper at higher densities like Bola rather , they will have slightly less.

15:23 sorry. And the depth of investigation be less than high densities on

15:30 Is that OK, directly related to it measures? And uh the fact

15:37 that's primarily uh contributed by the rock of gives you that result, I

15:43 warn you. Now, it because neutron log give away a lot of

15:48 excite that it's basically measured the four . So one measures the rock,

15:52 neutron and measures four fluids talking about that is second, not one of

15:57 second hour or so, maybe. so, uh and so, uh

16:05 if you have one answer, if remember the answer for the density

16:09 the answer is opposite for the neutron , right? Big insight as to

16:16 going on. Yeah, it's vertical . It's actually better than this

16:21 Uh You can get if you're willing run it fairly slowly with the new

16:27 tools, you can get it better in terms of the resolution. So

16:32 important if you're trying to understand for example, that will help you

16:37 that right. Uh And so if you're willing to do signal,

16:41 things like that, run it you can prove that resolution as in

16:47 there are four whole corrections related to , which in general you don't want

16:52 do a pretty complicated I wanna show a picture of what you know this

16:58 . OK. Right. Measuring full told you what the ghost was.

17:04 can see the tool is actually a tool. So even the standoff

17:09 depending on the amount of blood which stand off or the hole is,

17:14 have a significant effect on the See that here's what the tool looks

17:23 . Compensated or uncompensated. You have short space detector and a long detector

17:30 nobody wants and compensate for it. is a compensated tool, right?

17:37 detectors. So we we're gonna look the basically the measurement is gonna be

17:42 to a ratio. And so for , as your source decays, it's

17:47 be less intense, right? So overall magnitude of your signal will get

17:54 as that source ages, but the of the two will remain relatively

18:01 the whole idea, right. it will rotate around the core

18:15 right? But you are pushing it the no, you're right. All

18:21 tools do that rotate, they go . We talked about an oriented core

18:27 we talk about one of those right? We know the position of

18:31 tool is usually happening some sort of to locate what, how it's if

18:39 have an oriented core, probably better of that than so two detectors compensated

18:54 all uh the source. And then measure the ratio of these two

19:01 So this is uh as I was about, this is basically what is

19:06 a spine and rib plot spine doesn't real straight or the ribs. But

19:15 what this is, these are actually these are measurements in A B,

19:22 measure this as a standoff. But have normal muds here, be ice

19:29 on the opposite side of this right? And this is basically what

19:35 is we are averaging in a mud along with our rock signal. So

19:42 will happen to these, all of ribs is ultimately, they all go

19:47 over and end up back here because mud cake gets thicker. And

19:52 we will simply be measuring a mud , but that we really don't care

19:58 that much, right? So we to correct for that. The other

20:04 that's important is if these risks, we do to correct for it,

20:08 we just take, take the chart the tool software takes this just tracks

20:16 to the spine of the spine and spot to get the true answer,

20:21 get drawn rate. So if you're there, there is no correction to

20:26 made if your ratio comes up that is the short space detector counting rate

20:32 the long space counting rate. So looking at a ratio, the standard

20:39 to give us density where you have the mud or actually on this side

20:47 the chart, why would that it has a very high density,

20:55 . Therefore, it's actually more dense the formation. So we have to

21:00 back towards lower densities, right? make the correction, you have any

21:07 amount of bear, right. Why you add bear right to the

21:11 Because it's so de and you want wake the butt off, right.

21:16 this is about accounting for poor right? We didn't really go through

21:22 mud logging here, what it takes be locked out. But why do

21:26 put mud in a door hole? , one is to balance pressure,

21:36 ? If you don't, if you do this right? At the

21:39 For example, uh you can get blowout, which is not a good

21:43 , right? The other is to mud builds mud ft trade that minimizes

21:50 , right? Water is just that ever a spur loss. You look

21:57 where you're just gonna get some everything all time. Typically a mud trade

22:02 a lower current, but we played against the wall. We will slow

22:08 the rate of the page. You less of advance and show you that

22:15 . We had the last election we like to minimize that page that makes

22:20 easier for us to get to our , for example, right? So

22:25 you do, if it lied this would be an easy one.

22:28 would just track your way down. is actually kind of a bulk density

22:33 something like 2.4. So anywhere we on that side, right? So

22:41 fair, right, we're gonna be the other side, you know,

22:45 we would track our way back if can so significantly different ratio depending on

22:51 mind, right? And our, what would happen? This tool really

22:57 suffer from bad. It, the that's so yeah, I'm gonna show

23:14 in a minute. That's a fantastic in whatever we could say next.

23:19 . So what, what's gonna happen as my correction gets too big,

23:23 curves all coalesce go back. So have no way if I'm somewhere out

23:30 , there is no way I could back because I could take this

23:34 could take this one. I could any of these spines get back.

23:38 literally, I cannot interpret the tool my direction gets that big and that's

23:46 the, those are those blue right? So that's roughly where these

23:52 all coalesce with each other. I know what the tool is telling me

23:56 that point, right? And that's 40.5 g per centimeter the density

24:04 When my delta rope gets that it's actually drawn on the bar.

24:07 gonna show you in a second. believe that you will ask this.

24:17 . So that's, uh, here's delta road correction here and then they

24:24 draw on your right. So here's borehole diameter here. And you can

24:32 what happens when my hole gets way of gauge, right? Is my

24:37 , my uh delta row gets My density just goes nuts,

24:42 So I cannot interpret. So this , and I think even here,

24:52 last thing to draw on this is delta road correction blue lines. The

25:00 gets that big which you can see in, happened in the washouts.

25:06 I, I can't direct it to example for you of how to zone

25:12 have it, spread it for but please get zoned everything what's going

25:19 this? They are saying here was them porosity. Uh This is my

25:25 bulk density plotted here. So as bulk density goes down, my porosity

25:31 going to get bigger. And they plotted the bulk density here because

25:36 is willing to commit to a So it's a fairly simple res of

25:42 to go between bulk density. If know my grain density, when we

25:48 about cutting the cord, one of reasons the geologist Petros, the

25:54 sometimes it wants the cod is to the brain density that it wants to

26:00 a variable brain density model for the of the we gonna see how that

26:07 in just a second. I think what I wanted to say. These

26:23 , right? Which are basically what this is right? Is it

26:28 reflection of where uh your logging to whatever. So you, you can

26:35 basically how fast you can do. we already answered this question in these

26:47 where we have washouts, we get mud cake effects like bulk density is

26:52 gonna work very well. You can that reflected in response to the

26:57 And our next big question is how I change bulk density in the

27:01 Which is what I'm really interested Good news is for the density

27:06 It's actually quite simple. And one the reasons uh this happens occasionally,

27:15 I'm only gonna run one log a of times they will make sure they

27:20 , they will simply the only, only porosity tool they would run is

27:24 density run. I don't think that's much true destiny and Neutron to run

27:29 often together. And I don't think a huge additional charge we're running the

27:35 Trump on that. So let's look the final possible biology effects now,

27:43 we have to deal with, So basically the idea here is

27:49 uh why can I tell uh water oil which densities aren't that much different

27:55 the densities? Of course, K do because there is that big

28:03 I really cannot tell oil from the , but I can tell rock

28:11 Yeah, it's, it's simply about , went through that probably an order

28:17 magnitude more sensitive to the rock. the other thing I would get out

28:24 . This is, these are numbers should remember is 265 calite, something

28:33 2.7 and dolemite and what you call , it depends on how do or

28:40 is, right? So it can from something. It's barely Doma the

28:47 dot They range from 2.8 to 2.8 5. So they think that

28:54 So those are numbers you should remember because they were probably played quite a

28:58 to try to interpret and understand what mean and what the correct. So

29:05 will feel free to ask you those numbers the same probably are already

29:16 And the other thing you can see how low gas in it made.

29:19 gas has a even though it's more to for because that number is so

29:27 and vero estimates are based on the that your density log indicated density of

29:35 in order, right. Number one significantly lower. So you will then

29:43 sort of direction leading up to the gas have on it? I cross

29:49 rate too high or too low. too. So that gets easier once

30:02 get to the. But basically what is you're not measuring enough electrons,

30:09 you replace the core fluid? It's the to build with a fluid.

30:15 you're not measuring enough electrons and it that, that basically not enough

30:21 So it thinks the F is higher it is, are they OK?

30:29 it's measuring? This is a big to remember what the effect of gas

30:33 on the tool. One of the uses of the density, along with

30:37 neutron, you look for gas, salt is pretty high. The other

30:47 you might want to pay attention to coal. This will help you later

30:52 the exercise and we're gonna run But remember what the density of

30:56 It, it's love. So here's correction chart. Now that we're experts

31:07 the density tool, there's lots of we can them. So one of

31:12 actually, I was curious about this not, but it always gets

31:17 Exactly correct. Why would that Nature? Loves the line of

31:26 Yeah. Loves the limestone. That's a better answer. The limestone lies

31:34 between 272652.8. Right? So if going to minimize the corrections, you

31:41 , you would correct relative to the . So they force the tool to

31:47 correctly in limestone. One interesting feature this, another interesting feature of this

31:57 what happens to the magnitude of the as my ferocity gets smaller, then

32:05 direction intercity is zero. This is . It's pretty close to as high

32:12 you can. What happens to the of my correction away from limestone blinds

32:19 separating from limestone? Yeah, that sense. Does it make sense?

32:29 have to chart charts, correct. what happens is the process gets

32:39 I get more rock. So the of the rock is gonna get

32:44 So my corrections will get large as grass gets smaller. And what are

32:51 doing here? This is the magnitude the correction, right? As I

32:57 replace poor fluid with gas, This is gas in the poor

33:04 So what's the magnitude of that correction to the li correction? Huge?

33:12 ? So there is a significant gas on this tool. We already discussed

33:18 or make it across here too right? What's the magnitude of the

33:23 effect when the vero is zero Right? There is no force space

33:33 put gas in. So there's no , the correct force. So you

33:37 get, so your gas effect gets as the porosity gets bigger.

33:43 She also sent everybody. Ok. , and you might wanna look over

33:49 at collar or collar, it's gonna you with the exercise and not too

33:55 . One question, anything else we look at kind of solve its way

34:03 the line. So it's gonna be to solve. How do we get

34:11 from this? What could be This is a volume weighted average.

34:17 all we take it's weird averaging the amount of more of the density

34:26 the fluid, the volume weighted right? So eight times the density

34:33 gives me gives me a an amount four fluid. This is the amount

34:38 matrix that gives me the density, ? So if I know this,

34:42 know this, I can solve this for this should shouting up things to

34:50 . One is it's a simple This means that the different components are

34:56 interacting with each other, right? it it's very simple. Again,

35:01 is electron scattering. So it's a local effect. You have a gamma

35:05 scattering off an electron doesn't care whether another electron here. Here, here

35:11 a very local effect. So that simply a simple sum of the amount

35:16 electron that we have. You're not get such a simple uh response out

35:22 the neutron and we sure are not get the simpler response out of the

35:28 and the components interact with each So people have to do my car

35:34 , for example, to calibrate the acoustic, people still want to really

35:40 how to calibrate it with biology So we're OK with this, which

35:47 be expected to remember this a simple weighted average rate. So those are

35:55 volume weighted average. She takes the of fluid plus the volume weighted average

36:02 , right of the matri the bulk I simply. So the that I

36:07 have think 23 that's a great That was the question I was gonna

36:14 you, you now know enough the response is so simple that how

36:21 we account for gas in the forest ? It's gonna ro matrix.

36:30 Is it gonna affect about fluid? , but it will affect,

36:34 Is the assumption that mentioned is that four space is completely filled with

36:41 So what's gonna happen is I will to correct for the amount of fluid

36:47 the amount of gas that will be weighted simple volume, weighted average of

36:52 fluids, right? The density of fluids would be I would substitute he

36:59 , I'll show you the break but it's, it's a simple correction,

37:04 least in terms of that which the log by the way is not nearly

37:09 simple. So here when we solve , because the equation get sure you

37:20 all do that algebra and you can the the real unknown here, I

37:25 this, I usually know my fluid like I said, it's not very

37:29 to the fluid other than if you gas instead of this, then there's

37:34 significant density difference of one thing, ? So it will matter. And

37:39 showed on the chart and I, I already mentioned, we get this

37:43 matrix, we often will even better us to, to know what the

37:50 does, right? So to get right ferocity which we really care

37:55 right? Why do we care about the ferocity? Right? Spent a

38:02 amount of time in the course up now, it's about volumes. It's

38:06 about how much hydrocarbon do I So if I'm off by 20% ferocity

38:14 , I'm off by two ferocity That's 10% for that billion barrel

38:21 But you care about that. you would um could be a lot

38:25 money. So it's worth spending the to calibrate that. But a lot

38:30 times, for example, the play here is mostly gonna be a grain

38:36 for them. So if I want calibrate that I would want to know

38:40 if I have be bar, which significantly lower brain density than works.

38:46 would want to know that maybe there's way I could get the amounts of

38:51 other minerals. P is a you know, the is so

38:56 So I would like to predict the of P you need the brain tell

39:03 it really does matter calculation that we that number well with that. But

39:10 have certain things we would like to , fair enough. So that's,

39:18 know you need to know from the can say off from the court.

39:23 need to know what's going on, . With our fluids, particularly

39:28 That's what the log measures. here's, here's the numbers 2652.78 0.85

39:38 fluid density you can see really don't that much, right? So we

39:44 usually use, have a fairly good . Yeah, this thing is only

39:48 a few inches in the bo it's invaded to that depth. So we

39:54 be using the density of our blood right, right formation, completely

40:04 So it's fairly simple to calculate what correction is. High carbon density.

40:11 again, that's top oil base. again, we would just use our

40:15 to, to really get about Right. And like I said,

40:20 don't have to prevent the density, them what grade density to use is

40:25 trivial calculated process. So this is a graph. Nobody ever thought

40:38 right. This is back maybe when have calculated rather than calculators, they

40:44 use it to slide rules. Uh might do this but it it does

40:48 you kind of interestingly enough a right? If you have a measured

40:53 density and what your variation and cos be right based on uh whether I

41:00 something like a dolemite, a limestone a sandstone here, dolomite here,

41:06 ? So two points, right? this is basically a plastic here.

41:11 a dolemite. How much air and am I gonna get? Yeah,

41:17 you do is go up here and over to this axis. So if

41:21 were doing, if I were using limestone rather than a dolemite, well

41:27 my air and porosity five, That isn't the right. So you

41:37 to have a little get significantly wrong and then this just gives you the

41:49 fluid correction, which is relatively minor correction for reasons that we've talked about

41:58 OK with it. It normally comes charge. And then this is the

42:06 you asked about how do we grab gas? And then we just take

42:10 raw fluid. We're gonna write that a weighted average that it's weighted by

42:15 saturation now, but it's simply a of the core fluid that will

42:22 So I want to have the density my unrate science, my flesh

42:27 right, water saturation and hydrocarbons and whatever I right. So gas as

42:39 figured it out looks like an increased velocity and then we would just do

42:44 weighted average. And this is what would plug into the density equation.

42:48 show a little bit earlier. It is pretty straightforward to Children. What

42:58 the clay effect be on this Already mentioned that back, every

43:12 this is part of the reason we uh the way we show in order

43:20 calculate a play effect, I need know the grain density of the

43:26 OK. In order to get that density, this is a common misconception

43:33 the industry. If you go look , go into the literature, look

43:38 the look up the density of smack , right? And you will find

43:44 all over the place ranges from like to 2.8 or something like that.

43:52 is that? Well, it's, actually that would be a much better

44:02 get that variation than the one. really true. I actually, I

44:05 a student allocate this. Right. I have spec particularly, particularly bad

44:11 it has such a high fat, exchange capacity. It has such a

44:15 amount of water. So, depending how dry it is, it will

44:23 if it's like hot. If if it's equilibrated with use and

44:28 you'll get something more like 2.42 If you put it in a vacuum

44:33 at 60 degrees C, you will something more like 2.7. And

44:39 depending on the condition, how much water. So what do you want

44:44 use? Which of those green densities you be using to calculate a porosity

44:51 a porosity correction? 2.4 or the ? It is actually a fairly subtle

45:03 . I, this will lead up what we're gonna, we're gonna change

45:09 definition of veracity another hour or that's amazing. I agree with the

45:19 . So given that, that the is exactly right. Why I can

45:31 it's actually because you're, you're exactly , you want to use the

45:37 It's because we are gonna call the total water content of the

45:44 So this is because basically this definition based on the neutron tool which we're

45:49 talk about in a second that is incorrectly all the time. I'm gonna

45:57 you to do this in the exercise . I would like you to calculate

46:04 and you get shales it with, know, in class exercise you're gonna

46:15 . All right. So that, answer will make a little more sense

46:18 a bit actually. Uh, the density for a gas, right,

46:26 fluid by the thing uh is actually an interesting question. It could vary

46:31 significant amount. And so yeah, could see the specific gravity who will

46:38 on depth, for example. Uh so you need to, to have

46:44 PV T properties get this exactly Right. It, it is significantly

46:50 than oil or water, but how lower, right, depending on what

46:56 on what the pressure is, what temperature is is after. And because

47:01 methane and gasses are not ideal right. Can I use the ideal

47:07 law? So you, you really to have the PV T that

47:16 it makes our life a little more . So the spectral density, so

47:22 already saw even for the density which is the least Liro log.

47:30 . Uh we would love to know the li is. It actually innovation

47:36 in while I was in the interview it was a significant help with interpreting

47:43 . That was the idea that we're from a scattering and they compensate neutron

47:48 CN, right? And they compensate neutron log, we don't have

47:55 There is a significant effect. But with only that tool, right,

48:00 , you saw it was porosity dependent correction, it's gas dependent. All

48:04 these things come into play. So have a difficult time getting the li

48:09 of, of that tool alone for . OK. So what they

48:15 so quite a idea, you look the low energy spectra right of the

48:22 ray when it absorption comes into play absorption is basically the bulk of the

48:31 , right, usually uh causing the , right. So uh this will

48:37 you much better li information. So you actually measure is the volumetric photo

48:45 or fish. So that's this u you're measuring is related to this photoelectric

48:51 section that introduced just a second ago an electron. So this photoelectric cross

49:01 is ultimately what you would like to . But that's the one that determines

49:06 the li is. So we have go from this absorption measure what the

49:12 of the gamma rays have we actually , the right have we absorbed and

49:18 to uh to this number to show that's a correlation. But uh I'll

49:23 you in a second why would be be such a disaster for this good

49:31 that he has such a high density with it. So he will get

49:35 dominant So if you have a bear mud, this tool becomes much less

49:46 , she's probably not gonna talk to . So this pe curve is a

49:52 section is a characteristic and extensive property the rock, which is gonna tell

49:59 what kind of rock it is. is an extensive property, right?

50:05 on how much we actually absorbed. we need that. Here's that correlation

50:13 talked about, right. So we this, we could go with that

50:18 kind of a bulk density that we right, that an interpreted density,

50:24 this key value is. So what displayed for you with the photoelectric

50:33 literally this is a correlation. So kind of a look at kind of

50:42 the energy dependence of this out here doing content scattering. This is where

50:46 CNL operates at measuring right uh gamma at this energy. When we get

50:54 the low energies when we can do case shell or rate absorption kick out

50:58 K shell electron, right, we get varying varying amounts of the photoelectric

51:07 . And then we can actually go and interpret a a interpret tool based

51:12 the spectrum et cetera or what my curve is. So this demonstrates there's

51:23 lot of points about the curve. is my photoelectric cross section here.

51:28 you can see how different quarks from from calum is right. The other

51:34 I want you to notice is how these curves are. For some

51:39 they folded this, I guess to it to fit into a smaller

51:43 But we start with uh my total uh whatever I measure here and,

51:49 then I reflect off of this. over this large range, right,

51:57 measured porosity, this curve is nearly . So it really doesn't matter what

52:02 measure here very much at all independent porosity because these curves are vertical.

52:09 see that no matter what porosity I in with all the from 0 to

52:15 , I go to electric cross It's changing from below her five to

52:18 little less than five, little bit of an effect. Whether it's uh

52:25 with gas also is the gas effect independent of whether there's gas or it's

52:32 or not. Uh I, I less of, I, I don't

52:36 very much of an effect. I have a gas effect. I don't

52:40 a porosity effect. So this is great tool for determining the li you

52:46 anybody see that and again, the change in larger numbers, right.

53:03 . Gets the, the percentage change bigger and bigger ferocity. Since you

53:08 try the high ferocity, think that's you and you have a larger volume

53:18 the fluids which are replacing the gas like. But at the same

53:28 Yeah. OK. This is the point you're gonna have something you're really

53:34 need when I give you the I might tell you what it is

53:39 . So we're gonna give you a and squared log, we're gonna give

53:42 a bud log and you're gonna go and use those tools, right?

53:47 the log neutron porosity, the density et cetera. You're gonna identify the

53:55 we have to get through the new log and acoustic logs before we can

53:59 done, but it probably be after and it will be after function.

54:05 everybody sees the value of the pe , almost the direct li indicator,

54:14 fun ferocity changes. And so this interesting to look at right, what

54:25 pe value are now, right. Calcate is five versus three versus

54:31 Salt is actually quite large and look these heavy minerals, cite iron

54:38 I right looking for be right, . You can now see why small

54:44 , variable amounts of, right, devastate your ability to use this

54:50 Yeah. How about what you guys have significant significant amounts of iron associated

55:02 them. So iron is actually a heavy mineral. You see what happens

55:08 pide, it's dominated by iron. iron and clay also make. So

55:14 you go through this exercise and your curve is not making sense, you

55:20 that the data is bad can, it wouldn't be correct. It probably

55:27 you an indication that you have a effect, not gonna deal with.

55:34 bye. Places will make offer for . So heavy minerals are this nemesis

55:47 this is basically the the first are OK with that? And you can

56:01 how low it is for water, and, and that was the

56:13 So a couple of examples here on tool, you've plotted this porosity based

56:21 a limestone matrix. So what does mean? That means that in a

56:28 , the velocity will be correct. in a dolemite, right, it

56:34 not be correct. So in a process is gonna read too high or

56:40 low denser, it's gonna have more gonna interpret that as more rock.

56:49 it's gonna get, where is it a, if we have quarts instead

57:00 limestone, it's gonna have the opposite , right? Let's go ahead and

57:06 at what's going on in this log , right? So in a

57:11 right? Yeah, we, we , if you look at what we

57:15 , we have this is my pe . If you look at the value

57:19 my pe E value, what? a little bit less than five back

57:27 look here. Where is that? look at cal site, it's probably

57:33 five immediately say gee this is in range that looks like a limestone.

57:41 the velocity here should be correct about here right down here here. My

57:56 reading the lower value. It's like two things. That's the that right

58:10 and across process is gonna read correctly , it's gonna read incorrectly in other

58:19 . Right. We immediately know that should be calculating that cross in the

58:26 way. But if I know it's sandstone, I, I know what

58:29 desk we use and I know how calculate the process here. Right.

58:37 in between, we know what that . Is that a dolomite do about

58:57 . It's not that far. Really is we cannot unambiguously interpret that because

59:09 could be a, a cemented sandstone a significant amount of cal cement

59:19 Let's nominally global light. So we another log to do that. And

59:26 have two measurements here, right? I have three unknowns. So it

59:31 be there are other combinations of these two of the minerals that could cause

59:37 . Are you OK with that? gonna be the basis of your answers

59:49 , well, there's two end right? If I'm only allowing myself

59:53 minerals, sandstone by limestone, I can't get above limestone, I can't

60:02 the low a class of importance. those two somewhere in between could be

60:10 average of one another. So in, in general your life,

60:19 , we'll see this. I can't , I can't average 53 or,

60:30 for example, I, I can't a limestone and that we can

60:39 I cannot, sorry, cannot average times can average a three and then

60:48 two, get a five. It just simply a linear addition, no

60:55 how I wake three and two and it makes them add up to five

61:03 . I'll, I'll, I'll show that. Well, it, it's

61:14 , I'm gonna measure pe value, gonna try to interpret it based on

61:17 pe value what the mineralogy is. pretty sure. I mean, there

61:23 things, for example, if I or I had pr, or something

61:27 that I could get a sandstone quite . But I, if I,

61:32 I had significant amounts, if I significant amounts of writing, right,

61:38 could average 17 and two and I get to, I could, I

61:43 get to the survive and it wouldn't that much to take that half.

61:51 that, that's the whole difficulty and , you're gonna spend a fair amount

61:55 time this afternoon worrying about exactly this of thing. How do I,

62:02 do I interpret? Yeah. Which things? Oh, that's a

62:22 Yeah. So five, it was little bit less than five. The

62:27 , you know. Yeah. we look at the values,

62:31 Gold mine was a little bit over , was a little bit under

62:36 And then that's where those are the pi are simply those numbers just

62:41 give you some mythology indicator. that would be one thing I would

62:55 in. So, so again, thing, uh, place will often

63:04 iron and other things associated with So you put it up uh based

63:10 that and, but the, the is that's so variable in a

63:15 It's really hard to want, want play that. So it could be

63:25 50 do my limestone, it could 70 30 limestone sandstone. So

63:32 it could be a combination. Here's look this chart again, I want

63:38 to notice how vertical these lines are very small. This is the bulk

63:43 on this axis, right? You calculate lines still and ferocity if you

63:48 on this axis. But just the of what my bulk density would

63:53 So my peak or right, basically much difference there would be. The

63:59 thing about this is it showed the how we are going to average these

64:04 , right? We're simply going to a linear average between different biologs.

64:11 suppose I had a pe value of and we assumed that it was a

64:17 of calite and quarts that would indicate we would simply move along this

64:26 right? It it's like, this is my pe value. This

64:32 my here, this is a response curve for calcite. This is a

64:41 curve for this is a porosity curve quartz. And so if I have

64:48 of these things, for example, I have a mixture, in this

64:52 of calcite and quartz, it simply get the relative fraction of these,

64:57 guess linearly and interpolate along this But this one, in fact,

65:02 need something like mostly Calci, Actually, um so again, the

65:11 here is the responses. So this closest to Calite, it's dominated by

65:16 . This is your 70 30 dance you get these points are examples of

65:26 of a pure mineral. This is I was trying to say about the

65:30 there, there is no way if lie here, there's no way I

65:34 average this and this right and end here, I have to lie somewhere

65:41 between two. So if I lie this line and I know I only

65:47 these three minerals as possibilities, I to have calcium, right? If

65:55 , I'm off the line, I be adding like moving towards dolomite and

65:59 towards I, I could have some of dolomite. I would have actually

66:04 relatively smaller branch of cords to get as I move along this line.

66:12 would be a mixture of. So I move along this line,

66:18 Getting more and more reports until I 100% here that OK with everybody,

66:29 one thing. So it's very good telling him the these lines would represent

66:34 of cal and do or a mixture dolemite. What fraction of the,

66:41 me how much couple of things On a note like the line is

66:50 entirely vertical, very small variations in pe curve. It would cause huge

66:56 if interpreted fall down talking about the not get porosity from this relatively

67:07 insensitive velocity. It's insensitive to That's its strength. If I,

67:13 I could go and get a ology , that gets kind of independent of

67:17 other, the first place I go get Liz, probably this curve if

67:23 add it, have it. If then look at my other logs and

67:27 find they're inconsistent with this. One the first thing I'm thinking not bad

67:33 and no, I'm not doing it . Maybe I have a claim.

67:41 . So you can see I can this as Calite. No way to

67:44 any dolemite quds in in there. has to be quartz. I'm at

67:51 , I'm at an extreme anywhere else have a combination. This one could

67:57 a mixture of Calite and Boite. roughly 50 50 or this could be

68:03 mixture of calite and quartz, uh calci something like 32% closer to the

68:17 , measure the length of two lines calculate that all. OK. With

68:24 , this is basically a summary of strengths of this tour gas effects the

68:35 density but not. So the gas here is simply to move this.

68:40 if you have gas, if you it here and the blood biology,

68:43 makes sense, right? This uh affect this, but it still doesn't

68:47 the, it just gas to the be ok at this time. Right

69:01 more. Um, so there, know, there's various everybody's got

69:08 So you're gonna get curve and we for an hour and a half into

69:19 already. So I guess we'll take break and then we'll come back and

69:23 about the new trial more fun because a little more complicated and we have

69:32 most fun that we don't talk about acoustic quality. We see them,

69:38 see how long it takes finishes the . Then we have an exercise,

69:51 then uh compensated is gonna come into . Uh CNL stands for compensated neutron

70:01 and then we have uh thermal versus the mal the idea of scattering versus

70:07 is also gonna come into play. , some of the ideas we've already

70:12 , right. Again, it's uh actually uh pushed up against the borehole

70:18 wall just like the density tool this with, without a man,

70:24 The other one had a man that it against them. So you actually

70:28 a caliber. So you've got some as the corrections were so important.

70:34 then we're gonna have basically the same interactions that we're gonna have scattering,

70:40 are these elastic eli collisions above the energy level. That's gonna be the

70:46 thermal tool, by the way, your epidermis your outer layer,

70:53 So, uh that's gonna be scattering that's gonna be less lithic dependence than

70:59 capturing absorption neutron. OK. They very same ideas, very same effects

71:05 with the density and the lit the to. All right. I remember

71:10 this came out too, it was silver bullet. We were gonna never

71:14 to cut another cord again. But was the logging company's advertising back.

71:20 actually work out. Those are the ideas we have switch on laser

71:36 So what's the life of a neutron ? So you actually have a source

71:41 neutrons and we'll talk about the two . We have a radioactive source as

71:45 as we have a neutron generator. to me always amazed me,

71:50 what the the oil industry could do a portal, everything from an NMR

71:55 neutron scattering like ponding, right? what happens is actually the tool emits

72:01 high energy neutron. This bounces around a while, right, randomly scattering

72:08 into the formation, then it gets a low enough energy. This is

72:14 , right? Basically with the First concept, we have to have

72:23 of the most important is what is to slow this neutron down the

72:29 So sure most of you have at seen pool on T VA lot of

72:34 have probably played. What happens if bounce the cue ball up a

72:39 it comes back with essentially the same . However, with a single

72:44 you can completely stop the cue right, hitting another something with an

72:49 mass. It all has to do conservation of mass. In principle,

72:54 should have worked through this in your school physics class. But this tool

72:59 going to be most sensitive to So protons because they are almost identical

73:07 with a neutron to provide a mass an electron give or a day.

73:14 . So what are we measuring We are not measuring electron density electrons

73:19 little tiny things which would bounce off thing and barely notice it wouldn't slow

73:23 down at all. You're measuring hydrogen . The good news or the bad

73:33 is that the hydrogen density in oil quite close to the hydrogen density in

73:40 . So you cannot tell oil from with this tool, but I am

73:46 measuring the amount of water very different the density tool densities, tools measuring

73:56 amount of rock, the neutrons tool measuring the amount of water. So

74:01 have basically all most of the questions ask about these tools will be the

74:08 back dramatically. For example, we can figure out what will be the

74:13 effect on this tool process measures too or too low, too low because

74:19 don't have enough water opposite of the tool, right? What what happens

74:27 the depths of investigation of the tool a function of porosity opposite of the

74:35 tool? Right? So again, more water you have, the less

74:39 depth of investigation will be OK. already we know most of the physics

74:47 could be easier, right? Then it's thermal and this is where the

74:53 is where we actually we are when we measure neutrons with these

74:59 we are measuring, this is the the mal tool that's measuring the higher

75:04 neutrons. When we get to roughly right by the 40th of an electron

75:11 , we now are measuring absorption and is the compensated neutron log which is

75:17 neutrons with this energy, right, is gonna be more lithograph dependent the

75:26 lower energy where things are getting For exactly the same reason with this

75:34 really is kind of right. So neutron is captured and gives off a

75:39 and captures Bob stated this is called slowing down length and it's just a

75:49 it uh typically travels to become thermal the definition of that slowing down

75:59 And then it starts to most that not diffusing here because it's not

76:04 equilibrated diffusion is a random process. actually has you're actually slowing things

76:11 So it's gonna move differently here than , but going down length versus a

76:17 length epi the mal up there, you stated, thermal energy compensated to

76:24 down there. So this tool is compensated obviously an old picture as a

76:33 how many detectors do we have. it's not compensated people, right?

76:39 would need another detector. This is and no, nobody runs the

76:55 So the problem with all of these tools are they were very li

77:01 They actually needed a calibration kind of the well site for sure. We're

77:07 to be doing that anyways. But because they had that effect,

77:12 Uh really hard to interpret quantity this , the first generation tool, it

77:22 a single detector. You looked for neutrons that capture gamma rays or some

77:29 of, right? And the problem that you had to know the highest

77:34 lowest porosity possible and then you just between those two. So you basically

77:40 to know the answer to get the , right. So uh the compensated

77:46 was a significant step forward. nobody runs these anymore. The only

77:52 maybe in some Russian logs a long ago, you might see some of

77:57 . But other than that, you really don't see them second

78:02 right? It's the sidewalk neutron et cetera. They came in in

78:06 sixties and they added a single epi mal detector. And then similarly,

78:12 had similar pro problems with this, ? How, how do we calibrate

78:17 ? How do we quantitatively interpret Right. And then we ran into

78:23 generations, we had a para So a compensated tool in the seventies

78:29 created me. Then I do remember this one came in, right where

78:34 had a pair of thermal neutrons, had a pair of epi thermal neutron

78:40 . And this is when they gee, we've solved all problems.

78:44 . Because we have something that's relatively , independent, lithp dependent. So

78:50 could do all this cool stuff Yeah. It's like this, this

78:57 bullet where people are not gonna have make any core measurements anymore that it's

79:02 turned out to be true. The one was which will show you when

79:08 take the lab to. It doesn't any of these are not useful.

79:12 are just not the panacea things always oversold by the way, which is

79:19 happening. The data analytics right it's getting oversold. It was not

79:23 silver bullet to answer all questions, it will be a useful.

79:31 So the the thermal means that there's lithic effect again, because there's an

79:39 here. This is scattering dominated Jim stayed in. And then this one

79:48 actually quite cool uh this generation tool at that reason, 30 years old

79:55 , but they actually have a down neutron source, right? An

80:01 Why would it be worth all that ? But answered this question because that's

80:07 to actually build a down hole neutron . That's a really complicated thing to

80:13 on you, right? And why would you go to all that

80:20 ? What happens if I stick this them do not have a radioactive

80:26 Right. So there's much less hsne for this thing. Right. In

80:33 , I could grind this up even it would be expensive, it's less

80:38 than actually having to plug back and track it. Yeah. So I

80:44 this is fairly commonly won now. . So it's not, this is

80:48 tool. I probably still wouldn't straddle the rig floor, but uh it's

80:54 always actively admitting new trials. So tool, I won't even bother to

81:00 you that anymore. You actually have moderation phase, slowing down length we

81:05 about, then you have a fusion . And so the relative intensities of

81:11 gives us a much better, This ratio of these gives us a

81:15 better estimate of neutron porosity. Why it worth building this entirely separate

81:24 We already had the density tool easy interpret. Why do we wanna go

81:29 and do this, spending all this developing it? You talk to

81:35 for example, they even tell you 10 years of R and D,

81:38 new tool they develop takes them roughly years of R and D to get

81:43 out to market. That's not a amount of money. Again, we'll

81:50 the answer here is that the one the rock, this one measures the

81:55 . So they have dramatically opposite porosity effects and things like that,

82:09 ? No. So they epo the , which means their energy is higher

82:14 a thermal. So, out here where they're thermal here is where

82:23 they're, they're emitted with a higher than a thermal in. Ok.

82:31 on. And so we just get sim different and the near detector bar

82:38 , we get different amounts of Right. That ratio is, is

82:43 we really want to know. here's a look at the ology effects

82:48 , right? And uh again, think you can look and what's the

82:54 of having a sandstone versus a limestone a dolomite? I don't know,

82:59 just look at a lot of right? It uh 10% ferocity gonna

83:06 my count rate is significantly different depending rock, right? And they're scattering

83:15 off the uh hydrogens. Will there a clay effect on this tool?

83:24 it's not found water. There are groups associated with the clay matrix.

83:30 so what would happen is we would there's extra hydrogens around. So that

83:38 act like additional water. So this make the porosity, right? Places

83:45 make the porosity read too high because these uh inter crystal and oh groups

83:55 the clay matrix, the clay we all OK. With that,

84:01 can see there's concrete gets affected, what that has on that. And

84:10 the compensated neutron log, it's a , the near fire detector counts,

84:14 have two detectors, it's calibrated uh using test pits. Each mythology has

84:22 own bulk density and cross section sigma capture cross section sigma and its own

84:28 versus crossing. So this is not simple because there are multiple scatterings,

84:36 ? And it it's not the simple that you have for the density

84:41 you have to know the lithograph and pos right must contain the liquid to

84:46 a proper porosity. So there's a , that's the thermal, the truck

84:53 cross cross engine to set. It's probability that you'll thermal. Here's an

85:02 , right? This is a this is basically a porosity recorded using

85:07 limestone matrix. Again, they assume that's the one they want to correct

85:12 from. You can see that dolemite uh on the opposite side from a

85:18 . The dashed curves are and you read it here but ignore that for

85:23 minute, which would be to cover up too. Sorry, wait,

85:28 is gonna be the CNL, the curves or the dash curves would be

85:32 CNL. I can ask you Even though it's stated here, you

85:37 see the CNL if you look if have a limestone porosity and you interpret

85:43 and if it's a dolomite, you're gonna get a ferocity, the

85:47 neutron ferocity, right? Something like . So what happens here?

85:53 Is I'm gonna get the uh property would record, right? If I

85:59 it was a limestone be something like if it was a dolemite, uh

86:06 coincidentally. And for exactly the same as the density log, you notice

86:10 nice straight line that goes through the to 1 line, right? You

86:14 get the right answer in limestone. because of the way the tools

86:19 right? And then for a So difference between dolomite sandstone,

86:26 For the CNL, which is the lithic is something like the difference between

86:33 porosity and 18% porosity. Do we ? Clearly, I backed her up

86:42 . So we really need to get ology correct for this tool. And

86:48 you notice the solid lines which are epi the tool, the side wall

86:54 porosity tool is the acronym for the tool. I mean you can see

87:01 difference between this is smaller. So have a smaller lithograph effect S MP

87:07 I do the CML for reasons I've we're all OK with that, assuming

87:21 no questions, I will assume that all understand perfectly. Yeah.

87:31 OK. Compensate a new law that the thermal neutrons, that is the

87:41 has an absorbed neutron component that has larger li of packing. So there's

87:51 cross sections. The the reason this is so effective is that the capture

87:56 section depends on li it's just the of absorption of a neutron, right

88:04 gets absorbed by the nucleus, So that's related to the biology.

88:11 . OK. Or not not. . What do you want me to

88:17 about more side wall neutron process? So lih effect is measured by the

88:30 between here and here. So for , the example given here,

88:36 at least in this direction, the is gee we measured based on a

88:42 matrix, right? So I've calibrated tool for limestone, interpreted it as

88:47 it was limestone, it was actually , right? So based on

88:52 it's something like 14% ferocity. That's this value. If it was

88:58 Dolomite, CNL, you would measure . The actual true answer would have

89:04 8%. If it was a the actual true answer would have been

89:13 . So more than a factor of difference, if you have the ology

89:19 , both of them are significant. sorry, what, how do we

89:25 what's right? Yeah, that's what exercise this afternoon is gonna be all

89:30 is, is to get what the lithograph is. So you don't have

89:35 information here. You just run this . Hardly anyone runs the CNL all

89:41 itself because there's such a large lithograph . So for example, great

89:47 Let's run a lit the density Then the lit the density tool will

89:52 me a limestone dolemite or plastic and I know how to interpret the cross

89:57 year much better. Once I know lit, I need more data.

90:02 tool is not, you know. . Right. Their argument was gee

90:12 I ran the epidermal tool and the , the SNP, the epi,

90:17 MAL tool and CNL, at the time, I would have different mythology

90:22 . And therefore I could untangle just this tool. Right. What was

90:26 on? The problem was it really work well enough to be quantitative.

90:34 still a lot of difference. There's varying degrees of ization. There

90:39 clays, there are other things complicated . You're gonna get a much better

90:45 for that. When we do the , it's after that some,

90:51 all your questions will be answered at point. At least if you ask

90:55 as I walk around, we will attempt to do a better job.

90:59 really like this exercise because it ties everything we're talking about this morning.

91:06 this is an important one to OK? And again, it's

91:15 right? So you can see even the CNL, it gets limestone,

91:19 ? The S and P gets right? If the whole world was

91:23 , there'd be no problem. It's . And then yeah, if you

91:38 it on a sandstone matrix, you could get pretty wrong answers going the

91:42 way. Right. That's, that's rest of the lines. So significant

91:49 effect is the bottom line here Now we get to talk about,

91:54 we had spine and ribs plot before were gonna get to look at kind

92:00 uh what the depth of investigation for tool is. I haven't talked about

92:05 logs yet, but what they use , yes, 50% actually,

92:13 Sorry. Use 50% for relativity right? So what do we

92:18 We have different mythology tools here, . We have the compensated neutron.

92:24 have the density tool here just to , right? You can see it

92:28 a shallower depth of investigation than the two. But what is this

92:33 Right is how what is my depth investigation of the tool for these various

92:39 ? We have to compensate a We have the epi the tool,

92:44 side wall neutron porosity, we have formation density. Remember we talked about

92:48 depth of investigation was four inches. exactly what this means is that 90%

92:56 the tool response comes from a depth than that, that's what this is

93:03 a cumulative, right? This is cumulative how much at each depth,

93:09 fraction of the tool response occurs from or or gamma rays that penetrate to

93:19 depth. So if you look at area under this curve, right,

93:24 get to 100% here at four 90% of the area under the curve

93:31 at four inches or less. Should be experts on this probably like

93:37 size distribution, right? It's kind a very similar idea. You can

93:42 that the side wall neutron porosity sees . OK. Then the formation density

93:53 . OK. I got that Uh Sorry, this is the compensated

93:58 . It's seeing the deepest, which sense. Sidewalk neutron ferocity is this

94:03 , right? And then the formation is this guy. It sees the

94:10 deep. Why would, why would compensate a neutron and have a deeper

94:14 of investigation? First, when the emitted, it's got a thermal.

94:24 you're measuring in that range to get sidewalk neutron porosity and that will scatter

94:30 deeper before it becomes thermal. And clearly, it has to see

94:35 right? As gives you basically, it's remains epi the right to about

94:42 to this almost eight inches and then uh thermal measurement occurs maybe at a

94:49 to about 10 inches. The other thing is they use 90% of the

94:57 it gives you the depth of Here. I will tell you for

95:02 tools, they use 50%. So can talk about why that is if

95:09 use 50% for this, I would you to look at what you think

95:14 depths of investigation of the tool You really want to quote to people

95:18 my depth of investigation is two Probably not again because right, my

95:27 cake can easily reach an inch, and a half. I would be

95:31 dominated. This is why it's such correction problem, right? Everybody understands

95:37 this is that we're gonna run into and it's gonna be even more important

95:43 resistivity tools when we talk about them week, fair enough or not see

95:53 heads nodding. So I will assume a sense we can move on.

96:02 . And this obviously would depend on porosity, right? I'm sorry what

96:10 J factor is simply this number that . So these curves are the J

96:15 curves. So the J factor is percent of the tool response occurs at

96:23 depth less than this value. So we move away from the bore,

96:29 right, 20% of the tool response in about the first one inch for

96:34 density tool. 40% again, maybe inch and a half, 60% pretty

96:43 , right? And so I don't , two inches, maybe 80% of

96:47 tool response 3.5 and then 90% of inches. Again, this just is

96:53 you your, your tool response, ? It's picking up answers as you

96:59 away from the borehole and what percentage its response occurs at what distance away

97:06 the boreal wall. For this this is like what fraction of the

97:14 have a size bigger than this, ? As you look at the cumulative

97:19 , right. Ultimately, it has go to one because the total tool

97:24 , right? Ultimately, you have get to the total to response just

97:29 ultimately, you have to get to uh the total number of grains,

97:33 the total grains, right? So just integrating the distribution is what you're

97:39 , right? Is that OK, really is an important idea and it's

97:48 be actually more important for resistivity tools here. And what would happen to

97:54 penetration depth as the porosity went Why did they quote this or?

98:00 ? 22% porosity log with this vary porosity. Absolutely. And so what

98:10 happen is the porosity got bigger? gonna happen to my depth of

98:16 mainly reacting to poor fluids. So my process gets bigger, my depth

98:22 investigation occurs which shift towards the Yeah, this is an important thing

98:30 know, right. So here like density tool here as was assumed when

98:35 talked about it, you really are the flush stone almost entirely,

98:40 And, and for the for the density, right? Compensated density

98:47 That's just somebody else's acronym for Right day. You you may well

98:53 seeing something beyond the watch. Probably . So yeah. 1000 for

99:17 Yeah. Well, that's why I to talk about this a little more

99:20 , good question. This is a response. So what we are doing

99:26 we are integrating what the response is we move away from the wall and

99:32 we get to an infinite distance, has to be our total response my

99:38 has to respond to right, the as I move away from the borehole

99:44 ultimately whatever the response is, it ultimately has to be the total

99:52 . If you're saying, gee there be correction, but presumably we,

99:56 we have standoff or we have mud or whatever, we've already corrected for

99:59 . Right? If that's what you're . Oh, so I, so

100:09 presumably I can try again. this, this is not an that

100:14 a concept. And so right here be my borehole wall. Ok.

100:20 so g uh we, we have for borehole effects, things like

100:25 So none of my tool response we assuming would occur from the mud

100:30 right? We corrected all of that , right. So we're looking at

100:33 distance from the whole wall and what of the tool response occurs at a

100:40 less than that. So as I infinitely far away, my total tool

100:46 by definition has to have occurred at distance less than that. If I

100:51 deep enough that it would be by , the total tool response. I

101:02 believe you say that that cleared it . And so we are looking at

101:10 rock, we are looking at what how much, what percentage of my

101:15 . So what I would like would this to basically have a well defined

101:19 of investigation. And so you can these activity tools better than this to

101:25 have no response at a certain distance from the wall and then start accumulating

101:31 , right? For my deeper looking , then you can see where most

101:36 the response right is occurring at a away from the boreal wall kind of

101:41 this region. This is where this picking up the most quickly.

101:46 that, that the idea here is much like a a your cumulative

101:52 density, right? And so what of my grains have a grain size

101:58 than this value? So as we through grain sizes, ultimately, we

102:04 to pick up all the grades. so those grain size, right,

102:08 cumulative distributions were integrating and we have get the total integral under the

102:14 We have to get the total area the curve. By definition. My

102:20 , it will be looking very, have much sensitivity near the borehole

102:29 it picks up, I get a ways away, it doesn't have any

102:35 either. And so you get this of here, right? It's not

102:40 the, the response isn't picking up quickly, then we get a quickly

102:46 response as a tool. That distance in here with this tool right around

102:52 inches is where most of my response occurring from. And then ultimately,

102:56 get far up away from the it's not sensitive to the formation there

103:02 . So this is why my total response by definition as to the one

103:09 looking at a, basically an in under a response for or how it's

103:16 to the rock, a certain distance from the wall give up. But

103:24 look, we'll, we'll look at at this again for resistivity tools and

103:28 that don't know. So I'll try if it's still not clear. Ask

103:32 again and I'll sit and draw Yeah. So here beyond this

103:43 we've reached one. And so it's responding to rock any deeper than that

103:47 all. And this one's not in one's deeper, right? So this

103:51 does get a summer response to a up to about 12 inches and really

103:56 see anything beyond 12 inches. Similarly , this isn't seeing anything beyond about

104:03 inches, doesn't see anything and it see this slope is fairly low.

104:11 it's not very sensitive to what happens the first inch or so, which

104:15 what you want. You don't want reading mud tape, right? You

104:19 wouldn't want this thing picking up and this because then my total response,

104:24 total response would be suppose, suppose thing went up like that. My

104:29 response would be within an inch of parole wall. That, that

104:34 absolutely. Because you're only gonna be mud cake. Ok. We can

104:43 again. We're gonna do this again we get to Relativity tools. So

104:47 , we'll take another look there. again, the depth of investigation for

104:53 about four inches and for the uh a neutron log, right? It's

105:02 like 10. And so the CNL the deep deepest uh depth of

105:10 about 90% comes within 10 inches and this to death. Now, and

105:17 depth of investigation decreases at higher we all understand why opposite the density

105:25 , it's responding to the fluids, more fluids it has the shorter the

105:30 away from the borehole wall will be it thermals captures occur. So OBV

105:38 here, right, I'm getting, example, this one, I'm getting

105:41 captures, right? And for the the what this means is that G

105:45 been thermal by this depth. And the density G all my scattering

105:51 rate has been captured by this The tool is can't respond to anything

105:57 that. That's one way to think it, right? And this is

106:02 reverse, like I've said multiple times happens with density blocks, right?

106:07 resolution. And I haven't heard about one increasing dramatically. And this one

106:13 I find somewhat interesting you were at porosity, you get about one pu

106:20 statistics at 3% about three porosity units higher porosity. Why would that be

106:28 have more fluid? We're more we have more to measure. Why

106:32 I get a higher porosity percent at porosity than well opposite to death.

106:41 now we back we did talk about random fluctuation. And what happens is

106:51 statistics goes up like the square root event. So your statistical fluctuations get

106:57 but your percentage change gets smaller as you accumulate more data,

107:03 This is standard random statistics. Hopefully into the square root of a number

107:11 measurements before day. Your width of like if you're calculating mean, the

107:18 of the means will go down with square root of the number of

107:21 Now that says we average over random . Okey doke CNL is rarely used

107:36 itself. I talked about this already and clay effects. What was the

107:41 effect? Again, the neutron log to read two I because of the

107:51 groups associated with the alumin? Yeah, it's often and almost always

107:58 in combination with the density locked. is that true? They have opposite

108:06 . So they're very sensitive to for example, right? You get

108:10 classic thumbs up thing, right? the crossover. Yeah. And then

108:15 run with a gamma ray log just gamma rays are almost free,

108:19 So why wouldn't you run? That's passive tool. So if you're gonna

108:24 , you're gonna run that and it's with these other logs, right?

108:28 then you always have to get a , you have to select the

108:33 If you're gonna calculate, you're gonna a ferocity this one you're kind of

108:39 with that can't measure just display against , if you're gonna measure a capture

108:45 cross section, that's not gonna be to anybody, right? You choose

108:50 matrix to plot it much. All . So we will run the gamma

108:55 two along with the neutron and the . And almost always now it's a

109:01 of density, a little extra I guess. And we always have

109:07 detectors to go with this. They compensated to us. So here's an

109:12 of running it again. So we the gamma ray here as usual high

109:17 ray here, low gamma ray there zoned and squared a log, they

109:22 that quite well. First thing you it or you have different gamma,

109:31 response here. Right. Yes, what that's gonna show. How's my

109:36 condition, by the way, this straight line is the bit size and

109:44 is my actual, my caliper It gives me the four hole diameter

109:49 the average of that. So gee looking for kind of washouts or whatever

109:55 where my uh these two deviate from other priorities. That, so what's

110:02 here? I have a compensated neutron I have a compensated formation density.

110:09 are plotting these based on a limestone . When are they going to

110:16 And it's a limestone vote will be in the limestone. Right.

110:24 So up here, we have a separation gee we're uh by a large

110:30 between the two. what's going on here? We have again, a

110:36 separation, dude, right. rather limestone. I'm not sure it

110:42 a lot of sense to run this a limestone matrix that you can begin

110:46 see as we, as we look these logs and we look at

110:50 et cetera. There are cross plots we will have that we actually can

110:56 to determine with the all of That's where we're building towards,

111:00 So the the cross blocks will help . So environmental corrections uh you,

111:06 , you, I really don't think want to get involved in this.

111:09 the computer will do this for right? And uh I don't think

111:14 gonna prove on their interpretation as this case where I would suggest that's

111:19 But you can see all kinds of affected the kind of the bore hole

111:24 , uh shoulder bed, right? thickness, lots of stuff like

111:30 What's the gas effect? Here's a at the top. It has less

111:36 . So it's less dense than So the answer is right below

111:41 We already answered this question, These gasses decreased porosity, right?

111:47 are assuming that the amount of fluid hydrogen density is the ferocity. I

111:52 have enough hydrogen. I haven't filled four space for that. So my

111:57 will read too low opposite of the . This is why gas,

112:04 Basically, it's not replaced by So, yeah, that, that

112:10 don't need to worry about this Uh This excavation effect has largely been

112:17 so you can account for this. good luck, you have all of

112:24 large mythology effects, et cetera. you should use the density to detect

112:31 because it's so much more sensitive. have opposite effects density, right?

112:38 here's an example, right? An of this. So again, we

112:43 on a limestone matrix. So when agree, what might you conclude?

112:51 , it's limestone greening up here, down there, right? A good

112:57 that it's limestone. And then what here if we know that if this

113:02 a limestone matrix, what's gonna happen my porosity in it? For the

113:09 the neutron log, it's gonna read low, increasing porosity is going this

113:17 , right? And so we're reading to the density log, what are

113:23 reading? This is reading too presumably this is reading too high.

113:28 gee we're probably gonna interpret that. guess is gas. OK. So

113:35 sensitive huge gas factor, right? . What's happening there? My

113:49 right. I've got a, I've a problem with the wash out

113:58 And down there, I have a . So shales are gonna,

114:04 they they neutron log CNL is gonna affected by the glaze. So the

114:16 which I mentioned already, right, accelerator porosity zone right. Again,

114:21 can actually have detectors, we have thermal source. And the good news

114:26 , right, is that good news that uh we can grind this thing

114:33 as the main reason to do uh say for H SME drink.

114:41 let's look at now combining the density log uh along with the lipid

114:52 right. So porosity we can be from mainly from the pe curve,

114:58 , gonna give us the li it's independent of gas and a gas and

115:06 liquid can be determined, right? let's take a look at it,

115:11 ? Ferocity li cross block. And is gonna be the key to the

115:15 we're gonna do. We're going to you gros li crosslots. So these

115:21 show you the impact lih maybe you a density log, the density ferocity

115:27 one axis, the neutron ferocity on axis. And then you would go

115:32 and uh from that, you could an idea at least combinations of what

115:37 lithograph might be. Would you in cross plot to get lithograph, which

115:42 you use the sidewalk neutron porosity or CNO use the CNL because it is

115:50 mythology dependent. So if I want get lithograph, this is an advantage

115:55 the tool, not a disadvantage. . So in two D you can

116:02 do this, this is an example this, right? So we have

116:06 density here and then we can we , we can give it density

116:11 But again, it's based on a matrix, right? Why it's a

116:14 straight 1 to 1 line? And get the right answer along that

116:21 You can see again, uh how of a ferocity effect you're gonna get

116:27 versus limestone versus sandstone. Right? there's just various ways of how do

116:34 interpret things on this plot, Number of things we should look at

116:38 gonna need for the exercise salt, way off these curved, right?

116:43 easy to find and hydris pretty far . So I I can do a

116:48 good job at identifying these guys. density versus a compensated neutron line,

116:54 ? So suppose I read a neutron here based on limestone, gonna get

117:01 like a few percent porosity, et and these are just how big the

117:08 are in different directions. So the I want to give you,

117:13 first example, right. Density talking that, right? Uh based on

117:20 limestone matrix, see an al velocity there. So suppose I have a

117:25 to that plots here. We're gonna this again if you want, what

117:30 be only gonna allow you three no gas and then it has to

117:35 a sandstone limestone for a dole What can we say about this?

117:43 data plots here. It has to a sandstone. There is no way

117:52 average in a limestone versus dolomite right. Uh I have to move

117:58 way. Right. The only way get here is with the pure

118:01 Yeah. How do I determine the ? Pretty easy. I read it

118:05 the chart. Right. Ok. little bit more complicated. What the

118:10 here? Not more complicated. the plots here. What must mythology

118:17 has to be dolemite? Exactly at extreme way to average in this

118:23 Right? OK. Micro obviously in case, 15%. Yeah. Now

118:31 little tougher, what's this has to a limestone? Could be a mixture

118:46 sandstone and dolemite a little bit uh typical, right? Just together dr

118:55 and could, right? Could be dot Sandstone, right? Where we

119:01 dolomite cements, that would be a way to move in what's my

119:07 So it could be a limestone or could be a sandstone with dolemite cements

119:13 it could be a sandstone with calite . That would be a long way

119:22 put it. How do I get ? So this is what we're gonna

119:25 with all the logs. So we're now, I assume it's a mixture

119:30 a sandstone and a dolemite. So you do is draw lines between equal

119:36 values 19% 19% 20 to 2021 to to 1. We're like halfway in

119:44 . So this would be something like rather than 20% right? It is

119:53 we did on the uh that when looked at them lit the density

120:00 So always, if you were mixing two other ones, you always draw

120:04 between opposite ones about up here. might that mean? I pay attention

120:17 ? He highlighted that arrow now. there is a gas effect. So

120:25 happens? What happens to my, my density porosity when I had

120:33 So I'm here and I actually my is down here. So I have

120:37 correct in this direction. If I in this direction, what am I

120:41 to my porosity to my density porosity reducing it? So I read too

120:49 because I had gas. So I'm it. What am I doing to

120:53 neutron ferocity? I'm increasing it. read too low a neutron velocity because

121:01 had gas, right? So simply you want to interpret this, I

121:07 can't unambiguously interpret this depending on how I'm willing to move it,

121:13 They drawing arrows. It could be like a 30% porosity, right?

121:19 it was a sandstone, I'm willing move even further. I might have

121:25 like a closely saying 30% ferocity Uh Would I extend this to the

121:32 line? Probably not because I really get enough gas in it to move

121:37 to that far to line. Rule thumb, right? Would have to

121:41 too high for us. What's physically out here. It could be a

121:51 of other minerals, some sort of or something like that. Right.

121:56 . Guess how about here this what could it be? I can

122:07 this and this and get here. can mix this. Could I mix

122:13 and limestone and get here? I can mix sandstone and dolemite.

122:20 there. Right. So it could those two combinations. And again,

122:25 like we interpolated before you just draw line, the lines and it

122:31 that's gonna be that right. And you would look at how close it

122:35 , right? So if, if had a mixture of limestone and

122:39 probably something like like 60% limestone. I had a mixture of sandstone and

122:46 , right, then it would be more like maybe 30% 30%.

122:56 you will be doing that just So dual ferocity compensated neutron log.

123:02 , I talked about it like this that I go the wrong way.

123:05 talked about that before we have multiple , we put all of this on

123:09 same tool. Yeah, that was silver bullet. We still have an

123:15 tool you can see, right? uh we are by corrections,

123:21 I have to make corrections here. have a spine and ribs plot similar

123:25 what we had before for similar And so we're doing kind of the

123:29 thing, right. Exactly the same . So um play effect, I

123:38 we're talking about here. Right. this zone a we're talking about as

123:44 increased crossover due to the decreased absorption the neutron lock of clays.

123:59 7 30 I don't know. Um not gonna get all the way through

124:03 . Uh It depends which one I . You wanna try to get through

124:05 log before lunch or after lunch? care. You don't care.

124:14 it works for me to take a . Now. Uh, so let's

124:18 ahead and do that. We'll talk acoustic logs and then we'll do the

124:22 after that'll turn out about. Right. As well as we can

124:28 questions about anything else if you Ok. Doesn't feel like a Saturday

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