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00:03 y'all, I'd like toe. Welcome To what? I would probably call

00:06 primary lecture for biology. 41 of integration, biological knowledge. And what

00:12 gonna do today is we're going toe how to read the scientific literature.

00:17 , Granted, you guys were You've been here for at least four

00:21 doing biology, and so you should already know how to read the scientific

00:26 in general. But what I want do here is I want to talk

00:29 how to go about reading the scientific in a critical way so that we

00:34 actually analyze the value of the material being presented in the literature. And

00:41 this is what we're gonna be using we go into the group discussions.

00:45 in next week's class, where you will meet online in teams, what

00:52 will be doing is you'll actually be what we're practicing right now are actually

00:56 I'm laying out. All right, this is what you would do before

01:00 go in and actually read the And then when you actually discuss it

01:04 upon what you've done in terms of , that's what you're going to talk

01:08 in the classroom. So this is scientists do. This is We look

01:13 people's work and we criticize and and we analyze, all right?

01:18 so this is kind of what journal is. And so not only is

01:21 scientist or biologist, um, since talking about biologists, I mean,

01:25 is true for all scientists. Not do biologists get together into experiments and

01:31 to determine how things are working, we look at what other people have

01:36 because it helps to inform our own and helps us to ask, Answer

01:41 own questions. And so what we is we typically gather as a lab

01:46 maybe a department, depending on the of department or maybe an interest

01:51 and we get together way come As something called journal club German Club

01:56 started a long time ago, back the 18 hundreds, as I

02:00 at Princeton. And so it became practice of scientist did. And so

02:06 you take part in this, it's just I'm going to show up and

02:10 people feed me information. Really. goal here is to discuss. And

02:16 when you are reading A are involved these type of discussions, the most

02:20 thing you can do is be In other words, read the

02:25 Now reading some papers sucks. I'm gonna pretend like every paper is

02:30 you know, full of fun and . I mean, some papers are

02:34 slogs. I've written papers that are to read because of who the other

02:40 authors were. But the truth is that there's a way to go about

02:44 the papers so that it's not such nightmare for you, all right.

02:48 really, the idea here is I've of laid it out here on this

02:52 here. What you want to do you want to first read the

02:55 Yeah, abstract is simply the paper down a 250 words. So if

03:00 read that, you have the big of what the paper is, and

03:04 that allows you to kind of be moving in. All right, The

03:08 thing you want to do is you to read the introduction because this is

03:11 to give you that background information you're to need in order to understand what's

03:15 presented in the paper. Now, doesn't mean you have to understand

03:19 But it helps at least to kind see what it is that you're going

03:23 be talking about. So it's gonna out a kind of a foundation,

03:28 it's gonna present data that will help understand why the paper is going.

03:33 direction is going finally, you want read the results of discussion. This

03:37 kind of the meat of the This is going to tell you what

03:41 scientists did in terms of their their . And then what? What they

03:46 out of it in the discussion kind tells you what they think is in

03:50 paper. So if you read these things the abstract, the intro results

03:55 discussion and sometimes results in discussion and the conclusion are kind of separated from

04:00 other. But if you read those basic areas, you basically got everything

04:04 need to know about the paper and be prepared. Coming in Now,

04:08 material methods are important, and not needs to read them. But sometimes

04:14 should read them if something isn't quite clear. All right, so if

04:18 looking at an experiment, you're I have no idea what they're

04:20 Go to their materials and methods and a look at it and see if

04:24 helps you have a better understanding of going on and why they're using a

04:28 task. So not everyone needs to it. But it's there for for

04:35 sake. It helps you. as we described in the orientation

04:42 we said that you're gonna be broken into groups of six. All

04:45 so what that means is, is you're going to be put into these

04:50 where one person is gonna be leading five people are going to be

04:55 And what that means is, is it's not so much as a The

05:00 needs to know everything. It's that leaders there to drive discussion. All

05:05 , So what that means is, that they're there to kind of herd

05:10 cats and keep everybody on task and focus on the paper. So if

05:14 the group leader for the week, that means is you need to be

05:17 little bit more prepared than everybody All right, so if you're

05:22 make sure you read your papers, right? And then before you even

05:26 coming in and leading the discussion, need to critically think about the

05:31 All right, So I haven't bolted in red so that you can see

05:35 basically says, recognize assumptions, evaluate and then draw conclusions. That doesn't

05:41 you need to critique the paper. just means you need to think about

05:45 is going on in the paper and mean you need to understand it.

05:49 means that you need to kind of understanding off what is going on so

05:55 if questions come up or if lulls in the conversation, you can drive

06:00 conversation forward. All right? Your as a leader is toe lead.

06:05 discussion. You are the one who conversations. That means you're not teaching

06:10 the paper. Means you are driving group in a direction. So you

06:15 read the paper as a leader and , I have no idea what this

06:19 . So there's something that you could . It says, Look, I

06:23 understand figure number one. Does anyone any idea how figure number one works

06:28 what they were trying to say? all of a sudden, now,

06:31 the leader, you're driving conversation because people are in putting into that conversation

06:37 upon that simple question, I notice didn't have to know anything. You

06:42 had to be able to drive the , All right, So group leaders

06:46 your paper and think about what's trying be asked before coming to the

06:51 and then you're gonna leave your description . The last thing is, you

06:55 to be prepared for some awkward and that's why you need to come

06:59 with some questions beforehand. This is of the thinking, critically about the

07:03 , because literally you guys can all in. You can come sit and

07:07 each other on a computer screen and maybe three questions, three basic

07:11 and then you're going to stare at other. So the leader you need

07:15 that conversation for at least 20 to minutes before the question period comes on

07:21 the TA could be there. He'll popping into groups, or she will

07:24 popping into the group's asking questions and you to drive and asking to see

07:30 you guys need any help along the . But you need to be prepared

07:34 that because we don't want you guys staring at each other, turning up

07:37 screens or not doing anything. All , the job here. The goal

07:42 is to use your knowledge to You better understand the papers. So

07:50 do we need to do when we with papers? Well, you need

07:53 ask for basic questions and these little questions. What is the question of

07:57 aiming to address? How do they to address it? Do they believe

08:00 achieve your goals? And do you they have achieved their goals? And

08:03 I wanna do is I just want kind of show you how to go

08:06 breaking down the paper. And this the paper that I'm an author on

08:10 we've written in 2013, so it's eight years old. I'm almost the

08:14 last. If I contributed so little this paper that I barely got a

08:18 on it. But I did have mentioned because of some of the work

08:22 I did. I think this is really interesting paper to see how they

08:25 it, because my former boss, the final author on this paper,

08:29 right there. Miles, you just pin on. Sorry, his Miles

08:37 , That's my boss. Or was person who trained me? He was

08:40 really good author. He knew how put a paper together very, very

08:44 . And so what you're going to in this paper, whether or not

08:47 agree that they they prove what they I think we did. But you

08:53 see how there's a story that's being and that there's a way structure paper

08:59 such a way that it's easy to what the goal is. All

09:03 so this is why I kind of . Also fun. It's fun to

09:06 at someone's your own paper and kind critique it as you go on.

09:09 the first thing we wanna do is want to answer this question right?

09:12 is the question that the paper is to address right now? The easiest

09:17 to figure out this question is to at the title. All right,

09:21 you can see the title. The when we go to main proteins regulate

09:24 expression insulin, other metabolic regulators and in the testes. Notice it's a

09:28 . So take this statement and turn . Turn it into a question.

09:33 how do the rocks one of the proteins regulate the expression of insulin?

09:38 , so all of a sudden, here's the question that's trying to be

09:41 . And so the statement simply is answer to that question. All

09:46 now, if you get one of titles sometimes and they're they're all the

09:50 where someone tries to be real What their title. Like, you

09:54 , you know, jeans, the that we wear or something like

09:57 It's just It's like, you Okay, we get it. You

09:59 a really bad sense of humor and jokes are cliche. So what you

10:04 to do is you have to maybe move elsewhere. And so if the

10:09 can't be turned into a question, at the abstract. So this is

10:14 abstract of the paper, and I , you could sit here and positive

10:18 if you want to try to read the whole thing. But what I

10:21 do is I just wanna highlight for where this question pops up in the

10:27 and you can see it. Here report several keen metabolism jeans regular,

10:32 the test ease Which genes are They're insulin to resistance. And,

10:38 , at open Ecton. Right. is the targets? And certainly cells

10:42 are part of the testes. An part of the testes. Alright,

10:46 further. We identify other members that transcription. We propose a model.

10:52 it says very clearly what they were to accomplish here in the abstract.

10:58 is why reading the abstract becomes so important. All right. Yeah,

11:04 read the top. Read the Let's say you you're completely dense and

11:07 can't find it there. Where is next place? Where you might be

11:10 to find this question and this is the introduction becomes important. Alright,

11:16 here's the introduction. It's actually the , multiple paragraphs. But this is

11:21 part of it right here. And you can look for specific keywords,

11:27 in the very Last Star. The last paragraph right. So the key

11:32 you're looking for in this study hard . You see those, and it's

11:35 like they're, like, basically big arrows pointing to where things might be

11:41 . And so here I have highlighted in this paper. We report,

11:46 know, we have previously hypothesized so they're telling you what they think

11:53 going on. So the question that trying to accomplish is being highlighted by

11:58 . So you have the title, have the abstract, and you have

12:04 introduction specifically in the second, The paragraph usually, um, where you

12:10 find what the question is. And is why when you write, you

12:15 to think in terms of writing as . I'm trying thio clue in my

12:20 what I'm trying to resolve. So I put in my title in my

12:23 in my introduction, they're bound to it at least once. So that's

12:28 you want to do is you want look at those three places for those

12:32 items to answer that question. So second question is, how do they

12:37 to address this question? Right. how are we trying to address.

12:43 do rocks and box proteins regulate the of insulin? Yada, yada,

12:47 . Alright. So again, this typically found at the end of an

12:52 . Alright And again, we're looking keywords. Those are the key words

12:56 we demonstrate. We show we And so this is that very last

13:01 in the introduction that I've I've pulled and if we highlighted we can see

13:07 those terms pop up over and over over again. We demonstrate that the

13:12 gene blah, blah, blah. showed that the insulin gene is a

13:15 target. Identify specific rocks. Remains identified. We determined we showed We

13:21 we showed. And now all of sudden you have a list of items

13:26 you're looking for in the paper. is literally a checklist. And if

13:31 use this checklist, you can kind see and ask that question, how

13:35 they won go about finding or tackle question that they're trying to answer?

13:40 then you can answer the third which is Do they actually do

13:45 Do they believe that they do All right, so when you're looking

13:49 the specific of the tests. The of those tests, What you're doing

13:53 you're gonna go to the materials and . Alright. So remember,

13:57 you're the one that has to read materials and methods to kind of understand

14:01 they're trying to accomplish. The figures you see in the paper are the

14:05 of the tests. All right, this is the evidence that people are

14:09 to show you. If you for example, if you took all

14:14 figures of the paper and line them , it should literally tell you a

14:20 that the paper actually states within the of the test or Excuse me?

14:25 text, not the test. All . So the idea here is when

14:29 looking at the figures, this is evidence if they were attorneys, this

14:34 what they'd be presenting to the jury say This is how X occurred.

14:38 right, so one of things you be thinking of as you're going to

14:43 paper is Alright. They propose to this question. You might wanna ask

14:49 in a hypothetical way. How would go about answering the same question and

14:54 know, you might figure out that tests that they did or the experiments

14:58 they did are probably not the appropriate . Or maybe there are better ways

15:03 go about answering it. You never why they picked a particular experiment to

15:07 . Sometimes you might be restricted by how much funds you have. Or

15:12 that you were doing something and you came across. Um, a

15:20 And so that was why you use evidence. And then you did other

15:24 . The idea here is understanding what doing, why they're doing it and

15:30 they did it helps you to answer they tackled the question. So what

15:34 wanna do is I want to show a table here. All right.

15:37 is one of the tables from the . This is table two, and

15:40 shown you genes that are exhibiting alter . So they took a a knockout

15:46 of this rocks five gene. All , so they knock out rocks

15:50 And then they did a chip Back in the days when we did

15:53 raised and we look for what genes going up in what genes were going

15:58 as a result of the loss of . Five. And so this is

16:02 this table is selective. Uh you know, selective choice of genes

16:10 demonstrate these up and down so you see they're all greater than two type

16:15 . And you can see the jeans down like insulin to goes down in

16:19 absence of rocks. Five. You see that, uh, the tyrosine

16:25 foster taste receptor goes down. You see lactate di hydrogen A C goes

16:30 up. You can see that this finger protein goes way, way

16:34 You know, resistant goes way, up. And it's like,

16:37 out of connecting, it goes So if you kind of look at

16:39 these relationships between certain molecules, in these pathways, So these are

16:44 the metabolic paths. But if you to look at this and say,

16:47 right, I'm gonna base my um, my entire experimental budget based

16:57 these results, would this be a thing to do? And the likely

17:01 is no. Because chip array analyses not particularly accurate in and of

17:08 you need to have some sort of a little way to check this

17:15 Way back when I was doing my work, we would do either aren't

17:21 blocks or we do our protection. just about the time I graduated with

17:26 PhD is a time when Q PCR out. And so that's when they

17:30 the Q PCR. Now this is . This is probably 11 years after

17:35 graduated with my PhD, so it much more of a norm, and

17:39 can see using Q PCR affirms or many of the different types of expression

17:47 that you saw when you did the array. So with the chip

17:52 you can analyze 30,000 G once Q you can come in. So

17:56 let me get primaries. Let me for this particular gene and does it

18:00 what I expect to do based on array? And so the answer here

18:05 like what these particular selected genes were , Yes, these selected genes do

18:09 what we what we saw in the approach, and so it gives us

18:15 focus on how we should be looking this. Alright, so that's kind

18:20 how all of the starts. And , by looking at these figures,

18:23 can see Okay, I can see their question came from. Why this

18:28 came from Because they're looking at you why variety of gene expression they

18:33 Oh, some of these genes got of these genes go down. Maybe

18:37 are are being regulated by this you box jeans. So the third

18:42 that you have to ask is do believe they've achieved their goal? And

18:46 seems like almost a stupid question, they wouldn't be producing a paper if

18:50 believe they achieved their goal, I mean, the most likely answer

18:53 yes, all right, but not . Do you begin pursuing something to

19:02 that answer? Sometimes you pursue something the story is just interesting as the

19:08 . And so you say I was for a But when I was looking

19:12 a I discovered that be actually So there are some times where that

19:17 . You know that we thought X a was happening, but be happened

19:23 . And so you need to be that they that the the claim that

19:28 making is true way achieve what we're to accomplish. So when you go

19:35 the results section, you need to what you saw in the introduction.

19:40 , the introduction said We demonstrate we way showed we identified, we determined

19:46 showed we showed we showed Alright. with that in mind, you now

19:51 your checklist and now you can start through the results and saying, Did

19:55 achieve that goal of all those things they check listed? What you can

20:00 that simply is you can one look all the figures. And as I

20:04 you, the p I that I for he was really good at

20:07 and so we knew how to build paper. So it's a story.

20:11 so based on that table that I you a minute ago, that's what

20:15 things did. It shows First, did some, uh, q PCR

20:20 at these particular genes in the knockout the wild type, and then they

20:24 and looking specific cell types. So hard to read these, but this

20:28 specifically like the sexually cells that are in testing thes air found in other

20:33 of cells in the testes, interstitial or late excels. All right.

20:38 so the question they're asking here is does the expression look like? You

20:43 , doing this. Compare contrast. this is a general look.

20:47 this is specifically in the testes. , great. So we see that

20:51 this change, all right? And the next figure that keep going a

20:55 bit further. Can we regulate the ? The next figure shows Is there

20:59 region in the the five prime region the gene and the promoter region of

21:06 gene that shows potential or punitive binding for this home? Yo, box

21:12 . And that's what they're trying to that figure for figure five and figure

21:16 . And figure seven is basically asking question. Does it actually bind?

21:21 know, where are these domains located are found on different types of home

21:29 genes in this family? And they look at to see where these

21:35 that they've created over here, Where they trans locate? Do they actually

21:40 locate to the nucleus? Because they're going to the nucleus. When you

21:43 these mutations, then they're not doing job that they're supposed to do.

21:48 right. Finally, what the authors is they then looked at thes binding

21:55 . What would be the DNA binding or homo box genes to see how

21:59 they are? And finally, if you, uh if you

22:04 uh, rocks five expression, how it affect insulin? Signaling. So

22:09 looking at other downstream genes. And all of these questions together,

22:15 do they answer those questions that we there? We demonstrated, we show

22:21 , blah, blah. And if of these figures do exactly that,

22:24 they probably do demonstrate, right? , you know, if you understand

22:31 questions, you know that that's being , then you should be able to

22:36 at those results and come to an on whether or not the authors achieved

22:41 goal. E, how many times you heard something on the news

22:45 I mean, my favorite one with is when I was in grad school

22:48 on the NBC station here in Care, I think. A

22:52 kprc, whatever. There's like bras cancer. Now. I was being

22:57 in the Anderson, you know, like, What the heck is

23:01 You know, when you watch and what they did was they picked up

23:03 sort of basic story. They didn't the signs. Rarely do the people

23:08 understand the sides, and they're making sort of this broad claim because it

23:12 sensational. They want to really get eyes on the TV, right?

23:16 supposed to be scientists. You've been to critically think about the biology,

23:21 right now, in the midst of pandemic, every time you heard

23:25 you should have listened to it with critical ear and asked that question.

23:29 this jive with what I understand about ? What I understand if if you

23:34 anything about coronavirus, is how I it. Uh, ecology? This

23:40 visit? Uh, you know, does behavior All these questions should have

23:44 coming up. You should have been to what you're hearing with that critical

23:50 , right? And so, with evidence, you should be able to

23:54 a strong opinion one way or the . You should be able to formulate

23:57 own opinion before anyone can convince you way or the other. That's what

24:02 should be doing with the results, the results are simply the data that's

24:06 presented. All right, so when looking back at these figures, notice

24:12 no commentary to them. They simply their description of what the experiment

24:17 and they show you the result is job to interpret. So if you

24:23 interpreted, you have you should have able Thio come up with an

24:29 and then that's when you go into discussion. And now the discussion is

24:35 the author's interpretation of their results. if they if you don't agree with

24:42 author's If you say You said you me this, but I don't think

24:46 showed me this, then you re discussion and see if they can convince

24:50 otherwise. That's why you read the . Alright, notice the discussion or

24:56 conclusion, not simply a restatement of . It literally is the argument,

25:01 interpretation by those authors to what they all right, sometimes they won't persuade

25:10 that's your job is to sit there do your own analysis. So the

25:14 question you really have to answer do you believe the authors. Have

25:19 made a strong enough case? You're the jury. You know, if

25:23 the attorneys presenting their case, are that you're the jury or the judge

25:28 you get to decide whether or not have accomplished their goal in answering the

25:35 that they've set forth answers. in saying that, there's a couple

25:39 things you should probably ask yourself. these figures have nothing to do There

25:43 , uh, basic figures for, , you know, for for the

25:50 the purpose of the demonstrating. All , so some questions as did they

25:55 their findings, You know, if might be doing this paper on,

25:58 know, you might be reading a on fish in this semester. You're

26:01 be looking at papers on viruses. mean, it's hot topic. Might

26:06 well talk about viruses all the Right? So they might be making

26:10 claim. In your case, you're one paper you're gonna look at is

26:14 be looking at influenza. And so claim that they make their is it

26:19 just to influenza, or is it to all viruses? Right. So

26:25 question is, are the authors making that are overstated based on their

26:32 You know, if their stats you know, make sure that they're

26:37 appropriate p values. Are they using samples? You know, sometimes you'll

26:42 , you know, in in equals . That's good enough. Well,

26:45 might not be good enough. You to kind of make that judgment based

26:49 what you're seeing. You know, you're looking at a mice population,

26:52 know what you're dealing with. A population of mice three might be a

26:56 enough answer. But if you're looking a heterogeneous population in of three is

27:01 a terrible number, you probably you , several 1000 so that you

27:05 you know, clean out or call all the outliers so that you can

27:10 of get a real sense of where where the average might actually be.

27:15 right, so do they claim broader ? You know, again, do

27:20 do they go beyond the scope of paper? They might make this little

27:24 claim. You know, I'm just make up something like, you

27:27 coronavirus. You know, make sure it and then, you know,

27:32 on our findings. You know, means your head's gonna explode,

27:36 So that's the type of thing you to kind of look at and

27:39 Alright, are they Are they sensationalizing work? We've already mentioned,

27:47 if asking the question if they actually what they propose, they're going to

27:52 , you know? So you if they're experiment, that they did

27:55 they said tested a but it actually you results about B. This is

27:59 of important, you know, and . And this is a really important

28:03 , because this is one of the that scientists confuse people. They use

28:08 that really don't represent what they're trying do, or they will try to

28:13 you by using, uh, you , different graph sizes and stuff.

28:19 I actually saw this just a couple ago looking at I think it was

28:25 incidences of coronavirus infections in Kansas, the head of the health department in

28:34 state of Kansas showed this graph where showed that if you if you read

28:39 the way that they showed it looked that people who lived in areas where

28:43 were fewer mask use had higher incidences of infection. Whereas those in areas

28:50 there was mask you there were lower of infection. But what the What

28:55 , um, the presenter had done he had used a a three axis

29:01 . And I'm going to see if could draw this on a white screen

29:04 that you can see this here. just give me a second. There's

29:09 white screen. All right, So they did, um, draw

29:16 So let's try this again. All ? So we have There's your normal

29:24 axis graph, right? And so was time. And this is

29:28 right? And so you had a . Users who are doing like

29:34 right? And then they showed in counties where there were no mask

29:38 Actually, it was, like up this, right? But what you

29:43 ? What they did was they used graph, and so this was a

29:48 was be right. So this was B. This was line A and

29:53 this was, like, 0 to then this was, like, zero

29:58 , like, 20. And so you were to take this graph for

30:03 , I'm gonna race all the ink this slide, and I'm gonna put

30:12 . Let's not let me risk back them. On what? The

30:26 All right, So if I do again So here's our graph. If

30:36 to do 0 to 100 just use . This is again the number.

30:42 had one right that was going That was a but be would have

30:48 like this, right? So just the way that they presented it,

30:55 were misleading the general public. And the idea here is how doe I

31:01 people, show them a graph they understand. And so your job as

31:07 thinkers and as a Z scientists is look for and watch those types of

31:15 . So just as an example, is an example of one of

31:19 Look at this. Notice what the says. Huge spike in average home

31:24 . Well, let's take a look here at the graph. What do

31:26 see? I mean, if you at this, you see, that's

31:28 difference. But if you look at differences where the differences in prices as

31:34 that's not a huge spike. If you put this on a graph

31:38 actually had, you know, some of, uh, you know,

31:43 know, greater. You know, y axis here, you wouldn't see

31:49 would they would look exactly the So, you know, the problem

31:54 is that this figure is incredibly right? Another type of way that

31:59 will try to confuse you is they'll Thio to do something like that where

32:05 put too much data in the one , and so the information becomes horribly

32:11 . And so you look at it you're just like, I can't interpret

32:15 , so I'm just gonna trust that okay. This is the place where

32:18 need to stop and slow down and a look at and say, Can

32:22 parse out the information for myself and what they're doing? Because usually what

32:28 trying to do is they're trying to . If he results in a figure

32:32 that, all right, sometimes they'll ask you, or they'll put something

32:37 a figure that's absolutely wrong, you , And again, this is something

32:42 you need to watch for because this again a way that your authors,

32:47 readers or not, you're You're not read it, but your authors will

32:52 mask what they're finding. So this where your critical I've becomes really

32:59 So just to kind of sum everything , All right. Remember, you're

33:06 be a pinky one day, and for the five other classes, you're

33:09 be brains. Or actually, I that Backwards. You'll be Pinky.

33:13 days and you'll be the brain one . All right, so when you're

33:16 brain, you're the leader, Your job is to lead the

33:20 right? You need to think about paper before talking about it with the

33:24 . Your job is not to tell what the papers about your job is

33:28 direct the process to drive the Alright. So, plants,

33:33 questions, you know, get ready that awkward silence. Be ready,

33:38 . Have dialogue. Don't give your . Don't say this is what the

33:42 about talk about what you guys think paper was about. What do you

33:45 of this figure? Where there any ? You know, that sort of

33:49 ? That's what you're trying. You're to dialogue. As for everybody

33:54 remember, you need to read the before you come to the discussion

33:57 You need to think about the paper coming to class. Right? Questions

34:01 the margins, highlight stuff, What need to do to help you remind

34:05 about this. All right. If something you don't understand, don't be

34:09 about it. You know, I , honestly, when you get to

34:12 ecology papers in the evolution papers, know, even the plant papers,

34:16 where I would throw my hands up say, I have no idea what

34:19 talking about. I've read enough of ecology papers where they're showing these heat

34:23 and stuff that I sit there and my head. But you just kind

34:26 have to just allow somebody to help understand, and it's gonna it's going

34:32 help spark you. Um, you , the stuff that you've put away

34:37 stored away in all the classes that learned before And really the job

34:41 when you are pinky is participate, ? You contribute to the process of

34:50 the paper. It's not about who's and who's wrong. It's about understanding

34:55 the papers about. So you don't in, turn off your screen and

35:01 your microphone and go walk off. play, You play a role,

35:05 important role in that dialogue in that . And that's what we're gonna do

35:10 six weeks after this class. it's really for eight weeks because you're

35:15 do to practices where you're gonna first at the measles, install paper,

35:20 then you're gonna look at the paper your TA is gonna pick out.

35:23 once you start doing this, you're be doing it regularly for the next

35:27 weeks. And that's basically the gist this class. Apart from trying to

35:31 what you remember, uh, in very general sense from the all the

35:36 have taken over the last couple of , I hope you have fun doing

35:39 because reading papers is

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