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00:29 | how's everybody doing where you go You take a nap and it's |
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02:03 | chapter 13, right? So you go through uh 13 and 14 pretty |
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03:08 | quizzed. You got until midnight tonight I say 1159 because when I say |
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03:14 | that people get confused by that. , I it's 11:59 p.m. OK. |
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03:19 | then uh the smart work. So uh we've got just a little |
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03:25 | to finish up with chapter one. um let's just kind of look at |
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03:30 | real quick. Here's kind of a of the stuff we looked at last |
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03:33 | . OK. So, um so I start with pasture and germ to |
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03:41 | ? So, uh the idea that established that microbes could uh responsible |
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03:48 | for carrying out chemical processes. Uh The thing there was that microbes |
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04:02 | be responsible for converting organic matter into products, right? And so |
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04:09 | idea kind of extended to coke, thought, OK, human bodies are |
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04:16 | organic beings, maybe microbes cause a in in humans when they have some |
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04:22 | of disease. OK. Of it doesn't apply to every human disease |
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04:27 | , but to uh only to infectious . But that, that then brought |
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04:32 | down the road through um the medical if you will, OK. And |
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04:39 | a disease microbe connection. OK. remember that Cokes postulates are aren't set |
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04:47 | stone. There is still a valid to use when trying to connect disease |
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04:53 | microbe. But um we know after and 50 years, different things can |
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04:59 | , right? It can be viral you had no idea about or it |
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05:02 | be a uh a type of disease the organism is not easily cultured and |
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05:07 | forth. So we know these So uh it doesn't mean we can |
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05:10 | out, we throw out what he's . Of course not, it's a |
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05:12 | but we know how to, you , where the, where there may |
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05:15 | um variables, variations. OK? The um the um a by genesis |
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05:25 | pasture, but the swan neck flask establishing that in the presence of |
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05:29 | you wouldn't get growth right smart generations you had pre-existing uh life there. |
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05:37 | when he, when he dipped the into that swan neck, where the |
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05:43 | were at containing the contaminant and how microbes then it would grow because those |
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05:47 | grew when you saw your bus, ? Didn't just come from nothing. |
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05:52 | . And then one variation there was who duplicated the experiments but sometimes saw |
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05:58 | and it went after boiling the OK. So in those fours, |
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06:02 | we'll talk about in the next unit a very resistant form uh that can |
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06:08 | uh a period of to kill OK. So uh then of |
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06:22 | as you're learning in lab this a development of basic techniques and pure |
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06:27 | methods is all about is all kind came about during cokes, establishing micro |
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06:33 | , the tuberculosis and having the culture and how to do all that. |
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06:38 | uh basically doing the same way to day. Um the uh and so |
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06:44 | of course, uh establishing that many can cause disease and it's ok. |
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06:51 | do we, how do we control ? How can we get rid of |
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06:54 | ? Ok. Well, that's for and drugs, antiseptics, disinfected that |
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06:59 | comes in, uh targeting pathogens. And the, with the goal of |
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07:04 | rid of them, treating, treating that are sick with infectious disease. |
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07:08 | then, um, last part, we did last time it kind of |
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07:13 | into what we're gonna be talking about week and next week and the week |
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07:19 | , OK, these um aspects of metabolism, excuse me. Um So |
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07:27 | a gray and others discovered this group uh this type of metabolism that hadn't |
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07:32 | seen before, right? This little . OK. And so the prior |
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07:37 | that is for, you know, grew organisms in, you know, |
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07:41 | , these rich broths, right? broth or what have you, |
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07:45 | And that only allows for a certain of metabolism like the metabolism that we |
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07:51 | , right? And so this was completely new because now they're seeing organisms |
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07:59 | , you know, not, you , complex uh organic materials like beef |
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08:05 | and et cetera and sugars and but eating completely inorganic materials, iron |
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08:14 | and gas as a energy source you know, strange, right? |
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08:20 | they established that, but then you know, that showed is reiterating |
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08:26 | in atrophy, atrophy, right? life on this planet, you can |
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08:32 | in, in one of those two . OK? Because everything on planet |
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08:37 | is carbon based life. OK? centered around our molecules. Our structure |
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08:44 | centered around molecules mostly that have or of course stands for carbon, |
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08:54 | A carbon framework. OK? And can add various atoms to it, |
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09:02 | , sulfur, et cetera to make various biomolecules, right? So it's |
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09:07 | based on that, which is why have to by life on this earth |
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09:12 | to continually consume these things because we it down. We use, use |
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09:17 | building blocks, OK? But there's fundamental types, right? So there's |
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09:22 | that can use these OK, as food source. And there's types that |
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09:30 | CO2, right? And those are two groups, right? Autotroph, |
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09:35 | you use CO2, the trophy, you use this, OK? Um |
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09:43 | that's, that's any thing on planet can be grouped in one of those |
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09:46 | things. OK? Now we, gonna complicate slightly because there's different ways |
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09:54 | , to use that energy. Um And so we'll get into that |
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10:00 | , in the coming weeks. A little bit today as well. |
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10:04 | um so this this this lit trophy atrophy, you see among microbes, |
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10:13 | they can use those metabolisms to transform into different um um like de |
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10:21 | for example, break down dead organic , right? Um Other types can |
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10:27 | forms of things like phosphorus, sulfur in different forms. Uh because life |
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10:35 | different forms of those right? Some use ammonia as nitrogen and some |
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10:40 | Right. So, um but the there is that it makes these things |
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10:45 | to others in ecosystems. OK. so um their producers rely on |
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10:54 | right? Because they can't, they make NNP, they have to have |
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10:59 | supplied to them. OK? That's microbial activity does. OK. And |
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11:05 | um and so all levels, producers decomposes contain microbes. OK? |
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11:12 | everywhere and they, and they have roles as a consumer, as a |
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11:17 | , as a decompose. OK. critical for our life on this |
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11:22 | OK. And so um sue kind last couple of topics to touch on |
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11:29 | close out this chapter. OK. You know, of course, you're |
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11:33 | about war where, where the microbes from, but not in the same |
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11:39 | that those guys back in the 16 . Did you know we don't, |
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11:43 | not thinking in terms of so when say spontaneous generation that comes kind of |
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11:49 | in a way, OK. So kind of frame it as OK? |
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11:53 | was at one time and a chemical . OK. So abiotic evolution that |
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12:08 | to or developed into bionic evolution. . So um and there's all kinds |
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12:18 | experiments that have been done, there still going on trying to simulate early |
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12:23 | and how life would come about. we've done this in different ways. |
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12:27 | We haven't yet uh been able to life as it might have occurred back |
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12:35 | . But we're around it, we're there. Ok? But nonetheless, |
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12:40 | point here is that early earth wasn't like it is now. |
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12:44 | The very violent environment, uh, talking nearly 4 billion years ago, |
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12:51 | of volcanic activity. Um, the wasn't 02, the atmosphere was really |
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12:58 | thin. Uh, methane co2, vapor, these kinds of things. |
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13:05 | . And so life evolved no water you didn't have an atmosphere to protect |
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13:09 | this bombarding radiation, right? And um and so the things to be |
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13:15 | to eat were things like inorganic materials CO2. OK. And so those |
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13:21 | kind of metabolisms that evolved. Using things like this for energy and |
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13:27 | know, really kind of li little , right? Using that for energy |
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13:31 | then fixing CO2 probably the uh first of metabolisms on there. OK. |
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13:37 | so um so, oh, I'm , it's I needed this thing spam |
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13:46 | . Yeah, that's what I OK. Um Off and they need |
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13:54 | . All right. So um So kind of a timeline in terms |
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14:00 | life beginnings and where we're at OK. Is um shown here. |
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14:08 | we begin, OK, back right? Life starts around here 3.8 |
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14:16 | years ago. That's billions with a . OK? Not millions but |
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14:22 | OK. And so as I said , you know, most of earth's |
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14:27 | has been occupied just with microbes. ? Prokaryotes, cyanobacteria, which are |
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14:34 | prokaryote, um B periodic microbes, ? Not until about 1.5 billion years |
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14:40 | when we get to begin to like diversify into more complex multicellular types. |
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14:47 | ? And humans are probably this last sliver on that scale back on the |
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14:51 | . Right. So, um so of the biggest things, events on |
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14:59 | would have been this right here. . Well, yeah, right here |
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15:04 | . OK. The evolution of these , OK, brought about oxygen in |
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15:12 | environment for the first time. So course, it wasn't an overnight |
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15:16 | It happened over hundreds of thousands of , oxygen accumulated, but that's what |
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15:22 | to an atmosphere forming. It's you know, oxygen is very reactive |
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15:28 | so it created, it changed the chemistry of the planet. OK. |
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15:33 | many things died out as a but many things survived. And so |
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15:38 | life evolved to form an 02 using , aerobic respiration. OK? Which |
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15:46 | a very energy rich metabolism. You get lots of a TPS from |
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15:51 | . So that led to being able then evolve bigger microbes, you carry |
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15:57 | to bigger uh to multi cell et cetera. OK. So, |
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16:03 | and so life could then have an and you could have the ozone and |
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16:08 | against UV. And now, uh um my microbes um do certainly |
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16:28 | kind of on their own. Uh they're living among millions of other |
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16:37 | um both their own population and other and different species and what have |
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16:43 | Uh And that's how they live their , but very important are interactions between |
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16:51 | . Um symbiotic relationships. And when talk about in those symbiotic, that's |
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16:58 | , an intimate relationship between the OK. They are in contact with |
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17:05 | other. OK. And human microbiome a perfect example of that. Um |
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17:12 | covered inside and out with microbes uh aren't your own cells. You |
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17:19 | they certainly have a endosymbiont relationship with , right? Uh They're either really |
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17:25 | two groups, they either are if both benefit from the association, |
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17:31 | Or if the microbes and you really of just no harm, no |
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17:38 | nothing really bad happening. New Year kind of holding on to them and |
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17:42 | doing their thing. OK? But mutualistic relationships between your microbes and your |
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17:49 | , OK? In many different immune system uh among others. |
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17:54 | Uh nutritionally as well. And so an important one is the middle one |
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18:03 | this plant bacteria symbiosis. We'll talk this later. But uh this is |
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18:07 | relation to the nitrogen cycle. So the biggest contribution of microbes because |
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18:17 | microbes that bring in 90% of the in the atmosphere into earth, |
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18:24 | And converts it into various forms that can use uh of that group. |
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18:31 | the types that are symbiotic that have biggest influence there. OK. And |
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18:36 | I think something like a soybean um alfalfa, uh peanut plants we |
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18:44 | legi, these are all plants that these kinds of associations. Ok. |
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18:48 | very specific between the two chemical signals this and that. So uh very |
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18:54 | . So another one you're, you're familiar with is uh ruminants, |
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18:59 | Cows, horses, goats have like stomachs, right? Chambers, uh |
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19:06 | chambers if you will and each compartment of has a unique microbial environment. |
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19:14 | But it's how the cow or whatever animal is, is getting its nutri |
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19:18 | nutrition is from the microbe is breaking down so that the cow is grass |
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19:23 | on it, chews on it, its microbes breaking all that down and |
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19:27 | it informs the cow can absorb. . So, um anyway, |
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19:33 | very close intimate relationship between host and . Ok. So, um all |
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19:43 | , any questions about any of the we talked about in chapter one? |
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19:48 | . So as we go into a don't be intimidated or scared about |
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19:58 | . Ok. Um uh Number you're gonna see a bunch of chemical |
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20:06 | in your book if you, if flipping through the textbook, OK. |
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20:10 | don't think we're not gonna go in into the weeds and looking at every |
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20:16 | reaction and every enzyme catalyzing every none of that stuff, right? |
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20:21 | goal for me is that you gotta an overview of what's going on. |
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20:26 | are the basic concepts that are going . Um We do have to go |
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20:30 | little bit of detail in, but we get into uh Wednesday, |
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20:37 | And we're going through the actual processes is kind of more concepts relating to |
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20:45 | . OK. Wednesday is more actually at the process, OK. As |
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20:50 | do that, it's more about I it down into four stages. And |
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20:56 | it's more about what's going in and of each stage and each stage is |
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21:01 | of multiple reactions. But we're not at all those individual reactions, it's |
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21:05 | overall each stage. OK? you'll see as we go through |
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21:09 | So again, if you wanna know individual reaction, you can just look |
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21:14 | up, right? So my goal kind of here is the process here |
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21:18 | kind of what it means. And what are the implications of |
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21:22 | Because metabolism, you know, you go through um protein synthesis and |
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21:30 | that all works and how DNA replication and all this stuff, right? |
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21:33 | these basic processes. Well, you see the book textbook picture is the |
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21:39 | of energy required to do that. ? And um for everything you |
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21:46 | even just sitting there, right? , hopefully uh watching, right? |
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21:53 | the brain's processing, even if you're thinking about this, you're thinking about |
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21:57 | football game, whatever, right? brain's working, right? Tremendous. |
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22:02 | most tremendous energy user in your body your brain tissue, right? And |
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22:07 | uh that requires metabolism for you to those a TPS that your brain can |
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22:13 | , right? So, um so our focus is microbes, obviously, |
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22:17 | , this is a universal process, ? Applies to all living things and |
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22:23 | bio majors or let's assume mostly you should know that, right? |
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22:28 | know, the basics of it. So let's, I always start because |
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22:34 | has different backgrounds and this and that in terms of some of that organic |
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22:40 | , some haven't, some of them had other courses that can help with |
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22:44 | material, but not that's easy to that. OK. But uh let's |
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22:49 | see uh how we do here with . We'll, and we're gonna go |
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22:53 | these things as we go through the couple weeks here. Let me pause |
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23:21 | . So you can catch up Remember, you can collaborate, |
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23:33 | Three heads are better than one Mhm. Uh OK. So you're |
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23:44 | for the wrong answer, old statement there is one. All right, |
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23:51 | can happen from 12. Uh So tie between F and G and |
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24:12 | kind of matches with the one o'clock 11 o'clock class B. OK. |
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24:18 | the 02 hell is converted to That's, that's true. It |
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24:24 | OK. So all of these are statements. OK. All true. |
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24:32 | . So um fermentation reactions occur in body, you know, if you |
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24:38 | out, you know, if your are sore. That's fermentation in your |
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24:42 | . Uh, pro lactic acid. . Um You don't rely on fermentation |
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24:47 | a constant means to get your You use aerobic respiration for that. |
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24:54 | , but certainly a is true. . Um B is true. |
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24:59 | What you're eating is gonna be broken , oxidized. Ok. Uh Don't |
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25:05 | this morning? Right. Well, you ate this morning, if you |
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25:08 | breakfast, right? Or what you for lunch, right? Source of |
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25:13 | . OK. Um So we're gonna through some of these things here. |
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25:19 | again, as I mentioned earlier. right, here's a microbe and ability |
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25:24 | divide cell division, binary fission, ? It's a bacterium. Uh lots |
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25:29 | lots of cells that represents lots and of energy expenditure. OK? Um |
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25:35 | takes energy to replicate DNA, to proteins in an actively growing culture where |
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25:41 | cell can go to a million in to 6 hours depending on the species |
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25:48 | is a tremendous amount of energy needed do that. OK? And |
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25:52 | of course, it doesn't happen, ? You're a lab this week and |
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25:55 | inoculating plates or liquid media, you'll that nothing is gonna grow unless you |
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26:03 | boo of some sort, right? Because that's, that's the fuel. |
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26:09 | uh this again goes back to the , and I'm gonna sound like a |
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26:13 | record here, but let me just to this point here. So, |
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26:16 | course, we're talking about heo tropes . If we're eating these kind of |
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26:21 | and you eat all those in one , whether you're eating a steak or |
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26:27 | salad, right? You're eating nucleic and lipids and proteins and carbs in |
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26:33 | bite of food, different proportions of things. But you're eating all |
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26:39 | Ok, consuming all those. And , um, and so we're lucky |
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26:44 | a hetero troph in that we get two for one deal, right? |
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26:50 | can eat these, you get break it down, but we also |
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26:57 | the carbon from those. So we both of those. That's not the |
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27:01 | for autotrophs, right? Whatever autotroph eating for energy, it's not getting |
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27:07 | from that, right? A right? So sunlight for energy, |
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27:12 | . Uh uses that energy to fix , right? A chemo autotroph, |
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27:17 | litho right? Uses hydrogen gas gets from that, right? That's H |
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27:21 | H two doesn't have C in So it's getting the energy source but |
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27:27 | carbon source is different CO2, So we hetero trope get both in |
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27:33 | . OK? And so the reason you see if you flip flip through |
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27:40 | 13, you see all these chemical , right? Leading from say glucose |
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27:45 | CO2 in the water, there's something 70 reactions that are carried out. |
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27:52 | It happens that way for a reason we capture energy in increments at different |
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27:59 | along the way. OK? We use life, can't use energy in |
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28:04 | form of what you see there. . So chemical energy can explode, |
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28:09 | ? And of course, lots of is generated uh quite violent reaction, |
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28:14 | ? Temperature increasing. Uh that's not we can do it with life is |
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28:20 | , you know, eating glucose, ? You can, you can combust |
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28:23 | , burn it and it, you , gives off heat, you can't |
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28:26 | with it that way. Right? have to, we break it |
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28:29 | not using enzymes, right? So allow us to do these reactions at |
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28:36 | temperatures, right? And um but we we it works because we can |
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28:42 | it at certain points. OK. so uh that's why you see so |
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28:47 | chemical reactions occurring. It's not just thing, boom because it's also it |
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28:51 | once a one step process that would kind of inefficient as well because that |
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28:57 | would give up lots of heat and for sure. But how, how |
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29:00 | you gonna capture all that in one ? Right. So a lot of |
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29:02 | lost and so it's not very So life, if anything tries to |
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29:09 | efficient in these things. OK. um OK. So a little bit |
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29:15 | , his next couple of slides are , you know, categorizing metabolism. |
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29:20 | the focus in 13 is on right? And really focusing on he |
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29:26 | the way we eat. So if ever forget what that is, it's |
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29:29 | we eat, right? So, , it's that metabolism that we're focusing |
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29:32 | . OK. We're gonna mention the types but the other types we'll talk |
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29:37 | next week. OK. So uh , so heterotrophic, right? Metabolism |
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29:42 | to break down opposite of that is . There's a build up, |
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29:47 | And so metabolism releases energy, anabolism energy. OK. So here |
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29:55 | we're just focusing on metabolism. So where does the energy come |
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30:02 | And then molecules? So here's this , here is C 60 That was |
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30:08 | too small. Here we go C H 1206. So we know what |
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30:14 | looks like, right? Carbon, , carbon hydrogen ohs sticking out, |
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30:18 | ? So where is the actual energy that molecule coming from anybody micro made |
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30:25 | atoms? What connects the atoms together made of begins with e and within |
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30:36 | , right? So the energy comes those electrons in there. So when |
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30:40 | oxidize, right? So metabolism is about redox reaction, right? Redox |
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30:45 | reduction oxidation, right? But we're those kind of reactions. That means |
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30:50 | got electrons flying around, right? molecule, the source of them, |
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30:57 | one takes them away and so back forth. OK? But if you're |
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31:01 | electrons transferring electrons, you're transferring right? And so it's in the |
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31:08 | steps of metabolism, it's in certain . So we capture that OK? |
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31:12 | an oxidation. OK? And so it's in a nutshell, this |
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31:18 | really, that's why that uh 11 in the question, Don, that |
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31:23 | ate this morning to the source of , it is whatever you eating, |
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31:27 | body sees it that way. Because that's what they're gonna get from |
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31:30 | ultimately. OK? And so, , you have a, you have |
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31:34 | food source. OK? But the , what your body wants from that |
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31:40 | the electrons because that's what it's gonna . That's how the magic happens to |
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31:44 | you to make you make lots of TPS and we'll see how that |
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31:47 | OK. And so um a lot these terms and metabolism are mean the |
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31:54 | thing. So a heterotrophic probe, thing, right? Um The organo |
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32:00 | refers to the type of, of food source, you're using organic, |
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32:07 | ? Um the OK. So fermentation respiration, right? So when you |
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32:14 | at them side by side and this really a good comparison in this picture |
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32:19 | . But when we get into it , uh by comparison, fermentation is |
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32:24 | simple. OK? You're not involving the parts that are involved in |
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32:28 | OK? And so one of the is, I mean, they both |
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32:32 | , of course, with the same , right? Breaking it down. |
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32:35 | we're getting complex organic carbon source. it's heterotrophic. Both of these things |
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32:39 | heterotrophic, right? So in remember from past, there's no oxygen |
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32:47 | ? And so we take a source break it down. So this is |
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32:51 | we call in this, these molecules are in the products have energy still |
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32:58 | . You can see it right? This is um acetic acid right |
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33:05 | OK. Um ethanol. So there's still energy in those molecules. There's |
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33:11 | that can grow, there's some bacteria can grow on ethanol that can grow |
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33:14 | acid. OK? That's what we it. Incomplete oxidation. OK. |
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33:21 | oxidation goes to CO2 and water. what respiration does. It's a respiration |
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33:27 | a complete oxidation, right? And , and that goes to partly why |
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33:34 | do not give you as much energy a lot of it still remains in |
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33:37 | end products, you get some but , not nearly as much as respiration |
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33:42 | you which I and almost more than to 1 difference in terms of energy |
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33:48 | . OK? Because we are completely in restoration. OK? Um And |
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33:55 | as a result we get in we are producing these energy molecules. |
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34:02 | are all these three types, we'll time in the end and these are |
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34:08 | molecules, right? A TP, can grasp that, right? We |
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34:11 | that directly as an energy source. so too are these guys in a |
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34:16 | and fa DH? Right? We're accumulate those at various steps along the |
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34:23 | in respiration. OK. And so TP you can argue is kind of |
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34:28 | direct energy source. N A DH fa DH uh we, we capture |
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34:33 | energy from those a little differently, we're gonna get a lot of a |
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34:37 | from that. OK. So I kind of, you're not, |
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34:41 | not hearing the whole story yet, that's, that's fine. So, |
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34:44 | but we, but we accumulate a of these in respiration. OK? |
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34:49 | then with where they do their OK? Is when these electron carriers |
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34:56 | here, OK? Or to this transport system. And so then finally |
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35:05 | oxygen, if it's aerobic respiration, . So it can be that or |
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35:12 | can be something other than oxygen on earth. There is as many, |
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35:17 | not more life that does anaerobic respiration anaerobic, just living anaerobically than aerobic |
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35:24 | far. OK. Think of your . OK. Lots of anaerobic activity |
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35:29 | on there. OK. And so so it's not some kind of obscure |
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35:33 | , right? Obviously, we're more with aerobic restoration because that's what we |
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35:37 | . But don't think of anaerobic respiration something obscure. It's far from |
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35:41 | It's very problem. OK. And in different forms, not just anaerobic |
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35:47 | . Fermentation is anaerobic too. So uh OK. And again, |
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35:54 | result. So even with these right? These are energy molecules but |
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36:00 | will be converted. And I should they're not directly chemically converted. |
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36:09 | they're, they're a way in which make a TPS. And I'll show |
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36:13 | what I mean by that here in sec. OK. So uh respiration |
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36:19 | . So you have aerobic respiration, respiration and fermentation. Those are the |
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36:24 | we'll focus on in chapter 13. . Bow Hitter Trophy. It's another |
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36:31 | bolic class. OK? And um and so the operative word |
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36:38 | Hetero Trophy. And I say that you might think OK. Photo phototropic |
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36:46 | . OK? I I know that be like the pixel two but not |
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36:50 | guys. OK? That's why heterotrophic the operative work. So they can |
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36:55 | light and energy, but they still to have an organic complex, organic |
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37:01 | of carbon, they can't fix OK. Um And so uh we |
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37:07 | know this, I mentioned this earlier I in a in every textbook, |
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37:12 | always you start with glucose, Just know that there's a bazillion of |
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37:17 | things that can fit in that right? Many other sugars. Um |
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37:22 | just it may be that um glucose in particular pathway, OK? And |
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37:30 | it just may be that whatever you're that if it's not glucose and maybe |
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37:35 | protein or something, it it funnels at a different point, but eventually |
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37:40 | they all intersect. OK. The is you can eat lots of |
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37:44 | bacteria can eat lots of things that can't aromatic compounds, right? Things |
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37:51 | um acetone, just nail polish right? Um Different types of of |
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37:58 | and things. So they can eat really, really toxic types of compounds |
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38:02 | many cases. So they can lots lots of different metabolisms with, with |
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38:07 | . OK. So I only mention just because just to kind of complete |
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38:12 | the different categories of metabolism, we'll more on this next week. Uh |
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38:17 | we have these other other pathways, ? So both of those, all |
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38:24 | uh fix CO2. OK. So autotrophs. So this lit atrophy using |
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38:30 | sources, uh photo trolls using light . Uh the those energies are used |
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38:38 | take CO2 and build it into more complex organic molecules. So, |
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38:45 | here we have six carbons, Making it glucose. So we've gotta |
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38:50 | six of these together. OK? completely building something right? From a |
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38:57 | unit to a big unit. And so that's what that takes |
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39:03 | OK? And the energy comes from on what you are. Photo outtro |
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39:08 | , then light energy is fueling that . If you're a litho, then |
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39:13 | oxidation of inorganic compounds that are feeling OK? But both can only fix |
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39:20 | . OK. So um that's why had this division in terms of energy |
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39:29 | , right? And carbon source, ? Whereas in the hetero trope, |
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39:34 | could be all, all in right? We eat glucose that serves |
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39:39 | a carbon source and energy, So uh OK. Read this question |
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39:46 | I will, this is about OK. Any que any questions so |
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39:53 | ? Yeah. Yeah. So photo trope um example will look at um |
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40:07 | week, a week after is bacterium . And the only Hero heros I |
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40:12 | are mi microbes. I don't know anything bigger, like there's, I |
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40:15 | , I'm not aware of any plants are p but Rhoto is a type |
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40:20 | bacterium that can, it kind of as a hetero trope. Ok. |
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40:26 | it has, it can supplement it a way to make a TPS using |
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40:31 | . So kind, it has like uh an additional pathway to help itself |
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40:34 | . That's kind of what photo hetero are you kind of have that? |
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40:39 | , their basis is the hero then they have this extra one that |
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40:44 | use light, the APS, that's what they are. OK. |
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40:51 | So we're looking for a component that not be required for all types of |
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40:59 | . OK. Let's see what we here. OK. So, I |
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41:13 | , just look at this back up second here. All right. So |
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41:19 | have two ways to aspire either with without. So, a is not |
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41:26 | absolute requirement for respiration. OK. If you're an anaerobic spirer, |
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41:35 | you're not using oxygen. OK. , um but everything else. |
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41:40 | OK. So I'm gonna show you diagrams here, the first one. |
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41:48 | and we're gonna zero in on, this diagram in the next slide. |
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41:53 | the point here is um OK. one, this is respiration obviously, |
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42:01 | ? Respiration. And uh this is to whether it's anaerobic aerobic respiration. |
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42:10 | . The process sustains itself by having source, right? So you have |
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42:17 | transport system. So electrons are OK? You transfer electrons, you |
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42:23 | up energy. OK? There's energy from that, that number one. |
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42:28 | So if you're trying to sustain a that is supported by electrons feeding |
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42:36 | right, then you have to have as a source, right? That's |
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42:39 | a is, right? So a a source of electrons. They mentioned |
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42:44 | , right? Uh food is is a, that's the doughnut in |
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42:48 | question, the donut you ate this , that's the source of electrons. |
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42:53 | . Um So you have a source electrons. OK? Now it's all |
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42:59 | flow, keep the flow going. . So to do that, what |
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43:06 | , you kind of set the system here to be. So it's redox |
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43:10 | , right? So you have some molecules you just better at giving |
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43:14 | electrons. OK. Others are really at taking them, right? So |
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43:18 | have two categories and there's a, a uh gradient of those, |
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43:26 | You have those that are really giving up uh what we call strong |
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43:31 | of electrons, right? You have . So on because this, this |
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43:46 | is comprised of multiple components, but components are arranged in that way in |
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43:52 | of their strong donors up front, acceptors at the end. OK. |
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43:57 | what helps maintain the flow. We electrons flowing A to B left to |
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44:03 | . So then what you wanna do molecule that is the super strongest at |
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44:12 | on electrons, right? Scoops them . Uh a very, it's what |
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44:18 | call a very strong reduction potential. the word we'll talk about next |
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44:25 | OK. So a very strong ability become reduced to gain electrons. |
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44:32 | you have like, you know, , we heard the term reduction you're |
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44:35 | OK? It must be getting right? Must be losing weight, |
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44:38 | ? No, the context of redox means gaining electrons. So it's one |
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44:43 | the things you just have to OK. And so AAA really good |
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44:51 | market with a really high reduction really good at grabbing electrons. Of |
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44:57 | , no surprise oxygen is the best that. OK? And so not |
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45:02 | behind are things like nitrate in but not as good. OK. |
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45:10 | , so you put those molecules there , that have the highest ability to |
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45:14 | electrons there and that keeps the flow that, all right. So you |
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45:18 | flow going. So what do you with that? Well, the you're |
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45:23 | a proton gradient with that. So remember the energy release and |
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45:30 | and that's another big concept here with energetics is combining energy releasing process, |
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45:38 | is what this is OK with the requiring process. And that's what the |
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45:45 | pumping is. So we have low iron concentration to high. OK. |
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45:52 | so if you're going in that go to h that's energy requiring, |
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45:57 | to stuff stuff more protons on one where there's already a whole bunch. |
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46:03 | it's of course, it's gonna take . And so how do you supply |
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46:08 | , supply it from the energy release electron transport? OK. So one |
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46:13 | these two things together. Um And , so I know from the word |
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46:20 | also confuses, confuses people. Coupling, combining um interacting uh 11 |
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46:32 | the other out. However, you to think of it, that's what |
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46:34 | mean by coupling these things things One is providing a service the other |
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46:39 | , you know that way. Uh That proton pumping process needs something |
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46:44 | give it the energy to do That's what electronic transfer supplies. So |
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46:49 | do this all the time metabolism, these two things. OK? And |
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46:54 | fact, in this slide, there's example of this. OK. |
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46:59 | so having a source right of electrons source an acceptor. OK? And |
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47:11 | these components in here strong donor or while it keeps slow going, that |
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47:16 | energy that allows you to pump So what, so, so what |
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47:21 | about what's proton pumping all about? . Well, this creating this |
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47:27 | I think it's stored energy. Stored energy the soul can use, |
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47:32 | ? You do the same thing, cells do the same thing. So |
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47:37 | the, so the question is how we harness the energy? So we |
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47:40 | it stored how would you make something of it? Ok. Well, |
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47:45 | you gotta do is provide a way have it come back into the |
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47:49 | OK. That's because again, saying concept for if it took energy, |
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47:55 | pump them out low to high, a must release energy going the other |
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48:00 | and it does, right? So go from high to low as they |
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48:03 | down, the gradient energy is there's an opportunity to use the energy |
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48:09 | do something, right? And that this example here is to make a |
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48:15 | right? To do this. So they come down, the energy |
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48:22 | allows it to convert this the A because this process is energy required. |
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48:33 | . So again, energy releasing process the energy requiring process and it makes |
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48:37 | go. OK. So um so examples of that concept here. |
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48:44 | So um so again, as long you keep, so that's why you |
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48:53 | you right, what, how, do we need, we need a |
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48:56 | , right? An acceptor, these of things. OK. All about |
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49:00 | reactions. OK. And this concept . So your goal obviously is to |
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49:07 | supplying A, which you do by yourself throughout the day. Um You're |
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49:13 | B by breathing, OK? Living oxygen, atmosphere and breathing. So |
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49:18 | doing A and B and by doing and B you're doing basically everything |
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49:24 | OK. So um so let's take um a little bit more different view |
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49:31 | this here. OK. So um the components of restoration and it is |
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49:40 | know, in photosynthesis as well, begins, all the action occurs in |
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49:45 | membrane at or around a membrane always ? Give your own cells and and |
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49:52 | membranes, a plant cell and and coid right, photosynthetic apparatus and |
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49:59 | It's all membranes, right where this happens. And so having a membrane |
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50:05 | you to have a division, Two sides you have inside and |
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50:10 | OK. And that this is what you to set up a concentration |
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50:15 | Now you can push molecules to one creating a gradient. OK. And |
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50:20 | how you can set up that stored . Think of that as like a |
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50:24 | almost. OK. So uh cell is always a central part of respiration |
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50:31 | photosynthesis. OK. Um And so within that membrane, we stuff it |
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50:40 | of these components, right? Electronic system, right? We can fold |
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50:44 | a membrane, right? That creates surface area, you can stuff it |
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50:47 | of more of these electron transport systems its photosynthesis full of chlorophyll pigments and |
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50:55 | , right? So um so then source, right? So now we |
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50:59 | the the fuel to supply that electronic system and we have a source. |
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51:06 | here you look over here the source see. OK. Are we looking |
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51:10 | Little Trophy? Are we looking at Trophy? Right? Is it a |
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51:16 | combat inorganic source? OK. Is H two or is it glucose? |
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51:22 | . Now, there's a distinction between source and the carrier, right? |
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51:28 | remember in restoration, we're going to uh these electron carriers, right? |
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51:36 | so different steps we generate uh the form. OK. So this guy |
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51:43 | in grabs electrons becomes reduced. So the source itself, whether it's |
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51:49 | , if you wanna go big be a banana for breakfast, that |
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51:55 | will go into your gut, be down to small molecules. And those |
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52:00 | molecules will travel to your cells. that's where we'll begin this process. |
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52:05 | . So the banana or the glucose does not physically interact with the electron |
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52:12 | chain. OK? Giving up it happens stepwise. OK. So |
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52:17 | various steps in the process, we is reduced carriers, electronic carriers. |
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52:24 | ? And these are what will interact electron transport chain. OK. So |
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52:30 | and they do so they become now become oxidized back to ned and then |
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52:36 | up electrons. And so various components the chain uh alternately um grab electrons |
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52:46 | then hand them off to the next . And so there's this memorize, |
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52:50 | said there's a specific arrangement of these donor acceptor and then um finalizing the |
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52:59 | acceptor. So this guy is gonna the strongest at grabbing electrons, |
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53:04 | So uh it can be. And that's what maintains flow my electron |
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53:09 | It can be aerobic can be OK? Um And this is |
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53:14 | where water is formed if it's aerobic reduced to water. Ok? Um |
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53:20 | then again, as I just right? These electronic transfers are what |
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53:23 | energy release is, what provides the to pump protons and then pro time |
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53:28 | four, we'll talk about that next as well. This is um there's |
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53:32 | 22 forces that attract protons back into cell. One is the concentration, |
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53:44 | ? High love, right? So one. OK. So because they'll |
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53:51 | flow from high to low and release , the other attraction is a |
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53:56 | right? So not shown. But this is true for most, there's |
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54:02 | here and there. But most of living things, the cells are such |
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54:06 | the inside of the cell is ours are as well. OK? |
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54:10 | that's due to the proteins in the um at, at the ph cells |
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54:15 | , the proteins are negatively charged. where the charge comes from mostly. |
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54:20 | the point here is that, you , positive charge and attracted to negative |
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54:24 | . So that's the other force. you have like an electrical force and |
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54:27 | have a chemical force, right? both those combine to make the proton |
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54:33 | force. OK? So that's the part here is we gotta have a |
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54:38 | to get them in. And because proton is charged, it can't easily |
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54:44 | through that lipid bilayer remember, lipid of membrane is very hydrophobic, |
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54:48 | hates water, hates polar molecules, ? So we have to have an |
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54:54 | channel for the get through. If do, we're gonna get a lot |
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54:57 | energy out of it, right? that's what the ETPH does, |
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55:01 | So it's specific for protons and is to the A TP formation mechanism. |
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55:09 | . So protons come in energy release from high to low and that is |
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55:16 | to um form a TPS. So TP formation takes energy. OK. |
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55:23 | the energy comes from the protons going the gradient. Yeah. So um |
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55:30 | this is, you know, this what you're obviously constantly doing, you're |
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55:35 | and breaking down millions of A TPS second basically. OK. Uh The |
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55:42 | your various processes that are going OK. And so um OK. |
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55:51 | And so it is important thing So terminology stuff. So uh everything |
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55:56 | see on the screen now, That's oxidated phosphorylation. So when you |
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56:03 | oxidative phosphorylation, you think everything on screen. OK. Um which actually |
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56:12 | relation respiration go hand in hand. . All involve all these components. |
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56:21 | . Um Photo phosphorylation. OK. similar. OK. Different components were |
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56:29 | similar except of course, light is is driving force but you still have |
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56:35 | transport system proton pumping a TPS. that there's also photo phosphorylation. |
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56:42 | Now, uh so contrast that to involves none of this. OK. |
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56:51 | the only thing on the screen that involved in fermentation would be this, |
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56:59 | part, right? A source, ? You do form these and that's |
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57:06 | . There's no electron transport chain, no A TPS, none of that's |
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57:10 | in fermentation. OK? And we'll see that on, on |
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57:14 | But uh just wanted to point of now. So the only thing on |
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57:18 | screen there is fermentation, what you circled there. OK. So AAA |
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57:24 | simpler process by comparison. Um So uh any questions? So I |
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57:33 | I'm throwing a bunch of stuff, at you and we're gonna go through |
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57:36 | again. So I figured uh let's see what it's all about and we'll |
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57:41 | it out more. Um OK. of course, we're talking about |
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57:47 | bioenergetics, context of living things. And the terms here Delta G. |
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57:53 | So delta G, you can basically all chemical processes and lump them into |
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58:01 | of the two categories. Either either a process that releases energy, negative |
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58:06 | G or uses energy requires energy input positive delta G. OK? And |
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58:13 | uh of course, there's degrees, negative delta GS that are small, |
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58:17 | are large, same with positive, , large and everything in between. |
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58:22 | . Uh But generally we refer to the GS as exon cat, you |
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58:30 | uh positive and organic an AOL which now the um and so delta |
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58:37 | the focus on that is because that usable energy, energy life can do |
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58:43 | with. OK. Um And so , the, so when we look |
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58:48 | energetics typically define it through a right? And the system can be |
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58:56 | almost anything, OK? It can just a series of chemical reactions. |
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59:03 | can be uh a cell, it be a a it can be an |
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59:09 | , it can be an ecosystem, can be the earth, you |
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59:12 | as long as you have a way monitor these heat heat uh changes. |
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59:17 | . And so we refer to the and the surroundings, right? Is |
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59:21 | changing with the environment? Right? open systems obviously do. Life is |
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59:26 | open system and we exchange with our , right? Um Close systems do |
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59:33 | . OK? But that has a um implication, right? So if |
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59:38 | can think of a, the same over here, so we just have |
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59:42 | plus B uh giving uh C plus products. OK. So we put |
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59:50 | in a closed system, right? put a lid on this thing, |
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59:55 | ? No exchange X, right? exchange, they are a closed |
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60:01 | OK? Well, um A and will continue to make products. So |
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60:07 | add plop A and A and B in, in there and it'll start |
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60:11 | make C and D but they will to make C and D until |
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60:16 | until what happens, begins with e , right? Guess equilibrium. There's |
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60:25 | no further net change, right? of ends. OK? Open |
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60:31 | Not that way. OK? Because can add, it can take in |
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60:37 | of A and B. OK? can convert C and D to W |
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60:43 | X some other pro that's metabolism kind linked that way. So products of |
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60:48 | process can be reckons for the next and so on and so forth. |
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60:52 | . So, um and so uh in an open system, we're not |
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60:59 | ever uh coming to equilibrium, It's always, we always going toward |
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61:05 | , but never, never quite getting . Although we do get there at |
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61:09 | point, right? And we get equilibrium. When, when do we |
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61:15 | to equilibrium? You're no longer on earth, you've come to bye bye |
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61:27 | you are changing with the environment, not taking food in, you're not |
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61:32 | metabolizing, right? So the last is one that will last for a |
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61:39 | bit. You'll make some a tps of that, but then it's lights |
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61:44 | . Yeah, you've come to So I'm obviously closer to the equilibrium |
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61:48 | you are. So uh so I'm to hold off as long as |
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61:53 | Well, OK. So open right? The exchange going to |
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61:59 | not quite getting there. Uh But keeps the whole train running, |
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62:03 | The whole att the, the proton and all that stuff, right? |
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62:10 | um now uh oh entropy, So entropy think of that as a |
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62:19 | it was different ways to think about . One is oftentimes what they call |
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62:22 | measure of order or disorder and you at it. So if you look |
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62:27 | , for example, keeping it with molecules, right? Let's look at |
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62:35 | , just briefly here. OK. not gonna say it's gonna be completely |
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62:42 | . Here's a glucose molecule that before , right? And we're gonna have |
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62:49 | Ohs and HS uh like that. again, this isn't gonna be accurate |
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62:57 | I forget myself. Let's see which point here is that um 1112, |
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63:11 | . OK. Uh hh OK. age or maybe there's an oe uh |
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63:19 | point here is that um I know is this, let me, I |
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63:24 | kind of forgot the chemical formula or molecular formula. Anyway. So the |
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63:30 | here is that this represents an ordered . OK. That's an ordered |
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63:36 | I I visualize if I had the angles drawn, right. Right. |
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63:41 | a a ordered molecule uh lots of in it, right? And those |
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63:47 | , electrons, lots of energy they have a fat, a fat |
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63:51 | , lots of energy in there, ? And so um so in the |
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63:57 | of, of this is something you to break down because you can get |
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64:01 | of energy from it. OK. imagine these, you know, I |
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64:06 | wanna go too far down the chemical but you know, you know that |
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64:09 | electron clouds around here, right? so you know that the bond angles |
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64:16 | kind of represent making some distance between two, but it's such a big |
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64:21 | , it's gonna be a lot you know, like electron clouds in |
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64:25 | that create some instability, right, charges when the others, right. |
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64:28 | all that collectively gives you a molecule if you break it down, you're |
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64:34 | get energy from OK. And so break this down into something simpler, |
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64:40 | is what we do in respiration or , right? Co2 and water, |
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64:48 | ? We're going to something simple. you generally go from larger molecules to |
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64:53 | smaller molecules, it introduces more uh less order, right? So |
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65:00 | that's these are things that are negative G. OK. When the entropy |
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65:05 | becoming more disordered, more random, are processes that are negative delta G |
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65:12 | to going the other way co2 to , you're creating much more order there |
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65:17 | takes a lot of energy. So um all right. Any |
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65:26 | OK. So OK. So with G, OK, can we manipulate |
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65:34 | ? And yes, of course, uh not every process is set up |
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65:41 | be one that doesn't require energy That's absolutely does, right? Because |
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65:46 | have an anabolic processes going on all time. Canonic processes help to fuel |
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65:52 | things, right? So here's a example. So you can kind of |
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65:56 | can add these things together, So here's glucose, here's the |
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66:00 | glucose plus phosphate equals six plus So that plus is the units of |
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66:06 | of uh of uh delta Jeep kilojoules mole. So the size, the |
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66:13 | plus. So that takes energy to this. OK. So then, |
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66:18 | uh what can you, how can do that? Well, you can |
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66:23 | that from this diagram. So free change is increasing, right? So |
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66:30 | of it, we had a ball here or a rock rolling it |
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66:34 | Of course, it's gonna take right? Compared to a TP |
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66:41 | right? All rose downhill. And and a a release of energy |
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66:51 | the process. OK? And well, let's combine that with our |
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66:59 | process. OK? So in other , let's take this and 80 people |
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67:09 | OK? So this is a negative . OK? And now you just |
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67:20 | . So is that we add those is the net negative and it is |
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67:26 | ? That's how a TP hydrolysis is to combined with linked to one provides |
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67:36 | service for the other. However, wanna words you want to use, |
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67:41 | ? That it works. OK. net negative 16.7. So it's, |
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67:47 | becomes that process now can, can forward, right? So um and |
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67:53 | happens all the time in metabolism you know, using a TP and |
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67:58 | source to fuel the process. It's not always a TP. Sometimes |
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68:02 | like GTP is is one that's used . But you know most of the |
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68:07 | it's typically is a TPS. But , um OK. So we talked |
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68:12 | gradients, right? So gradients a of stored energy, right? Is |
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68:17 | type a way to harness it, ? And so we talked about gradients |
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68:22 | in the context of of a TP , right? Um these gradients for |
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68:30 | use gradients for all kinds of not just making a TPS, but |
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68:34 | it to bring molecules into a cell out of a cell to move a |
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68:39 | to do all different types of OK. So it's used as a |
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68:44 | for many different processes. Um Then manipulating reactants and products. OK? |
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68:52 | you don't need to memorize this Uh but you can manipulate delta G |
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69:01 | manipulating reactant, some products. So um and this shows you how |
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69:07 | can happen if you add an excess reactants, OK? Or conversely or |
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69:18 | taking away product that is being which happens in metabolism, all the |
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69:23 | products are used for some other So if you remove those and reactants |
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69:28 | keeps that ratio pretty high and when have that right, you change the |
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69:37 | G. OK? And so you with microbes, particularly bacteria in certain |
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69:45 | on paper, they may have a process that is a negative delta G |
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69:51 | shouldn't be providing them a way to energy, right? But in the |
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69:55 | we see that it works because they to be in an environment where |
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69:59 | there's a large supply of the OK. And there's such an excess |
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70:07 | a normally posit energy process actually works there's so much of it. And |
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70:12 | we see that periodically in, in , depending on kind of the environment |
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70:16 | microbes in, I may just have supply of these things. Typically that |
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70:20 | when it's due to human activity. a lot of times we have like |
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70:23 | operations where we dig into the dirt , and pull out things like copper |
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70:27 | other elements, those can provide environments you have concentrated pools of different |
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70:34 | And in those scenarios, you can microbes growing on something that they otherwise |
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70:39 | . But only because there's an excess those reactants. OK. So um |
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70:47 | . Now, um OK. So you're gonna think you're gonna think this |
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70:56 | super basic. OK. But this to just remembering this idea of concept |
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71:05 | energy releasing, combining with energy OK. So what I'm gonna do |
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71:11 | ? So remember memorize this, Right. Because people think with a |
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71:19 | that is, it's that, that's there is. It's all about a |
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71:23 | . You have to remember a TP hydrolyzed. A TP is formed. |
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71:28 | . So if we have a Right. Yeah. And of course |
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71:33 | is a PM phosphate. OK. so how do these things? What's |
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71:40 | they cycle back? And forth as said, a million times a |
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71:43 | you're forming and reforming a TP. . And so if this is the |
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71:50 | of going this way, right? . That obviously is um 80 ft |
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72:00 | , right? That's energy required. is a make a positive delta |
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72:06 | OK? Going this way, 80 hydrolysis. All right. Energy releasing |
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72:17 | delta G. OK. Leasing energy . Everybody agree with that. |
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72:23 | I drew it. OK. So , yes, let's just look at |
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72:27 | process we'll see at nauseam here. to uh obviously multiple arrows, but |
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72:36 | going to CO2 the water. That's a negative delta G. |
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72:47 | This is energy. We just saw , right? This is energy. |
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72:51 | ? And then we have, let's we have um uh looks like a |
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72:59 | . OK? Let's say nucleotides, oxy rins um going to the, |
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73:12 | oxy my bow. It's the OK? That's certainly gonna be a |
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73:22 | LTG that building building DNA from building , right? So four processes, |
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73:34 | ? A TP formation, a TP , an example of a canna bolic |
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73:42 | metabolism, this anabolic um So you also break down a TP hydrolysis would |
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73:58 | um cat bolic, a TP building anabolic, right? So, |
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74:06 | OK. Any questions about that. I'm gonna show you a question. |
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74:10 | right. And having looked at All right. So when we talk |
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74:14 | linked to coupled to combined with one the needs of the other, |
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74:23 | That's when we're taking either this, something else that would make sense to |
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74:29 | it with or taking this and making fit with another process. That should |
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74:34 | a natural fit. OK. So a good question. OK. There's |
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74:40 | thing, right? So a positive G metabolic process. Bye is one |
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74:49 | would, you would associate with or to a couple two or one serves |
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74:54 | need for the other. However, wanna describe it, right? So |
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74:59 | one that would be associated with a formation? True or false? Is |
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75:05 | statement as written? True or Would you take a delta, positive |
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75:12 | G and go, I'm gonna fit with a TP formation because those two |
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75:19 | naturally go hand in hand, one make the other go think of that |
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75:23 | would make the other process go true false. OK? Or vice |
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75:28 | right? So think of it in of linked to, right? |
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75:38 | not if they're the same process but with nature fit those two together. |
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75:44 | other words, will one make the go think of it that way. |
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75:48 | one make the other go? And it won't make the other go, |
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75:53 | you, then it's not true. . Oh Of course, I haven't |
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76:02 | , forgotten it today until now. open the poll. So again, |
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76:09 | not asking whether it's if the, the positive delta G process is the |
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76:18 | type of process as one of those there. But rather with life combined |
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76:24 | positive due process it, it will it with something else that would help |
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76:29 | out. Right. I would help out. Uh, ok. |
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77:05 | Ok. I'm gonna save the answer next time because we're out of |
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77:11 | Ok. We'll go through it on . Ok. All right, |
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77:18 | Yeah. Have a good one. |
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