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00:02 | All right, good morning y'all. , let's see if we can just |
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00:05 | of sum up what's coming up. have an exam next week, |
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00:09 | All right. Sorry. It's, gonna be on Thursday. So right |
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00:12 | spring break, um, I will let you know right now, we |
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00:15 | have class on Tuesday before, but class will not be the material in |
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00:20 | class will not be on the All right, the way the schedule |
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00:24 | this year is I, I had figure out which was the best way |
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00:28 | do it. And I'd rather you take the exam right before spring break |
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00:32 | opposed to come to class and basically it off completely and I couldn't put |
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00:36 | . I wanted to give you guys day off, but there was no |
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00:39 | day after spring break. So, we'll have this class and next class |
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00:44 | be on the exam and the next will be the next unit, but |
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00:48 | don't get tested until Thursday. Does make sense? I'll say it again |
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00:53 | Thursday and probably again on Tuesday, just for our sake. And |
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00:59 | um, I'm not gonna promise you is a great day. All |
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01:02 | This is the material that most people through. All right. And the |
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01:07 | I'm not doing this to scare ok, I'm just, you |
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01:09 | kind of putting your brains like, , if I don't get it the |
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01:13 | time, that's not surprising. All , that's, that's how you kind |
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01:16 | approach this. All right. And we're gonna talk about today is we're |
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01:19 | talk about electrical potentials and this is theoretical stuff, but it's not visual |
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01:25 | , right? This is not stuff can look down at the body and |
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01:27 | look, I can see that All right, because these are ions |
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01:32 | back and forth across membranes. And we go through this whole process of |
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01:37 | all this stuff is so that you understand what's happening in a muscle cell |
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01:41 | what's happening in a neuron, which all the rest of this semester. |
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01:46 | right. So everything we talk about the next two classes really kind of |
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01:51 | up and prepare us for all the that's coming in the next two |
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01:55 | All right. So it's very physiologically . All right. And so some |
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02:00 | these things will make sense and, really what I want you to do |
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02:04 | as we're going through it, I want you to get trapped in the |
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02:06 | . All right, because that's usually happens. We see big words and |
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02:09 | words, words. We've never seen then we go, ah, I |
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02:12 | understand it but you've been to And so, you know, things |
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02:17 | things roll downhill. Right. I , that's a simple thing and that's |
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02:20 | of what we're looking at are things downhill. All right. So, |
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02:24 | , if the language gets a little confusing, just say, wait, |
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02:26 | , wait, wait, wait. you talk to me as if I |
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02:28 | a two year old and ill will of back it up and try to |
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02:31 | it more simplified to make it And so that's where we're going |
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02:36 | It's all going to be about greater and action potentials over the next few |
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02:40 | . So today we're going to really of deal with greater potentials. See |
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02:43 | already a word where it's like, don't know what that word means and |
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02:45 | an action potential. All right. as we go through, I'll just |
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02:49 | of break it all down. All . So the first thing, what |
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02:52 | gonna do is I want you to about a cell. All right. |
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02:54 | that's what they're looking at here We have our little cell should make |
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02:58 | I did hit. Yeah, we recording. All right. And what |
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03:01 | already know about cells is that we a plasma brain that has a, |
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03:05 | permeable state that it is what we refer to as being semi permeable. |
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03:09 | we talked about already about there being so that the inside of the cell |
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03:13 | different from the outside of the So, so far nothing new, |
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03:17 | ? Everyone should not, they're gonna . No, that all makes |
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03:19 | All right, the thing is, what we have that makes the inside |
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03:24 | the outside of the cell particularly unique regard to electrical potentials is that the |
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03:30 | concentrations are different, both inside and the cell. Now, you're gonna |
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03:35 | these numbers over and over again. you think you have to memorize the |
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03:38 | ? No, you do not have memorize the numbers. Is it helpful |
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03:41 | memorize the numbers? Not so Maybe if you stay in the |
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03:44 | it might be helpful. But the here is like, look if I |
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03:48 | out or inside the cell, I've a lot more potassium than on the |
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03:52 | of the cell. All right. the same is true for the sodium |
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03:55 | in the opposite direction. I have lot more sodium on the outside than |
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03:58 | have on the inside. And so of this, we have these unique |
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04:04 | and the behavior of ions just like else that has different concentrations is things |
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04:10 | to move in a direction that goes an area of high concentration to an |
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04:14 | of low concentration. All right. so this is what we were when |
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04:19 | say there's a concentration gradient, that's we're referring to is that there's more |
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04:24 | something on one side of the membrane on the other. And those, |
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04:27 | ions want to move until there's but there will never be equilibrium. |
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04:32 | right, because the mechanics of the of the machinery of the cell and |
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04:36 | the chemistry and stuff like that will allow it to happen. And so |
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04:40 | always going to be in this state unequal distribution. All right. |
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04:45 | when ions move, they're gonna do passively, you do not have to |
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04:49 | energy into the system, right? I put a ball on the top |
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04:53 | a hill, the ball is gonna . There's nothing I could do to |
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04:55 | that ball from rolling other than putting to prevent it from rolling, |
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04:59 | It's just gonna go and that's what ions wanna do is they want to |
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05:02 | down the hill. And so you see here uh those two that I |
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05:06 | out are the big ones that we're focus on. All right, but |
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05:09 | doesn't mean that there aren't other So like calcium, you can see |
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05:12 | a huge uh gradient that favors movement the cell. You can see your |
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05:16 | has a, a greater concentration outside inside. All right. But for |
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05:21 | now, we're, we're not going focus on those Zs. We just |
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05:24 | to understand that principle. Now, said plasma membranes are impermeable, generally |
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05:31 | to ions because uh you need to some sort of mechanism to cross that |
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05:35 | , right. The ions want to where water is. The plasma membranes |
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05:39 | made up of lipids, lipids and uh ions don't mix. So |
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05:43 | the ions are just going to stay whatever environment they, whether it's outside |
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05:47 | cell or inside the cell. But you give them a doorway, then |
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05:52 | will move. And so that's where focusing next is we're saying. all |
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05:56 | , well, there are channels. right. And what are these |
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06:00 | Well, we've already talked about There are two basic types of |
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06:04 | There are gated channels. They are ones that have the doors and the |
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06:08 | open and close. And we have channels and leak channels are really gated |
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06:13 | that have doors that are always in open state. All right. So |
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06:16 | , they do have the gate, just stuck. And so a leak |
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06:21 | is something that is always open and ions can pass through freely in a |
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06:26 | channel, they're closed. And so has to come along and open up |
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06:30 | channel. All right. But doesn't if I have high ion concentration in |
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06:37 | and low ion concentration in there, what's gonna happen is the ions are |
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06:40 | flow as long as that gates open when the gates closed, they can't |
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06:43 | through but they want to go And that's really what all this stuff |
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06:46 | telling you. So an ion channel a membrane protein if you don't |
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06:50 | And it's what allows get passage of through. Now, we're gonna spend |
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06:54 | of our time talking about gated But I want you to understand that |
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06:58 | channels do exist. And if you a leak channel, that means anything |
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07:01 | that particular ion type can flow This is like if that door was |
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07:05 | , anything um that could fit through door is gonna fit through the |
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07:08 | right? Mosquito Hawks guys getting tired the mosquito Hawks. Yet those, |
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07:13 | big, big ass moss mosquito looking . I'm so tired of those |
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07:18 | Be sitting around all the ones hit in the face. There's one right |
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07:22 | , see that the door let it . All right, it's gonna land |
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07:28 | on top of your nope missed All right. So le channels allow |
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07:33 | to pass through. They, it, they're always open. But |
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07:36 | we're going to focus on are the primary types of gated channels. We're |
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07:40 | to come back to leak channels because are important. All right. So |
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07:43 | two primary types and there are more these, but these are the two |
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07:46 | types that we're dealing with today. have the lien gated channel and these |
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07:52 | easy to understand. We've talked about before. We have some sort of |
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07:55 | that comes along and binds the channel is the key to open the gate |
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07:59 | gate opens up and ions are allowed pass through. And so you can |
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08:02 | we state we exist in a closed an open state. The one where |
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08:06 | gonna be primarily focused though is here the voltage gated channel and, and |
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08:12 | with the voltage gated channel, we're looking at something that binds to the |
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08:17 | . Instead, it's responding to the of ions inside and outside the cell |
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08:24 | that channel. All right. So opens in response to a charge, |
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08:30 | ? So if it becomes more positive more negative, and then we're not |
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08:33 | to describe which one does which. the idea here is when that charge |
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08:37 | around the cell, the ions or , the the the the channel itself |
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08:43 | actually change shape. And that's what the gate to open. So if |
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08:47 | change the ion concentrations, voltage gated open and allow ions to move, |
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08:54 | causes more ionic change, it's kind a positive feedback loop. It's very |
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09:01 | . All right. But the key is that voltage gated channels are opened |
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09:04 | the presence or changes in ion OK. Now, this is where |
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09:10 | going to spend most of our not today, but tomorrow. All |
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09:15 | . And when you talk about muscles you talk about cells, we're really |
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09:18 | a lot with these voltage gated All right. Now, here are |
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09:23 | rules that you have to know. I said you don't need to know |
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09:25 | numbers, right? I said that do not need to know the |
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09:29 | Yeah, but you do need to which side has more. OK? |
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09:35 | so with regard to the first these are tattooed to your body. |
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09:39 | you're into tattooing, this is you caffeine on your body, tattoo this |
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09:43 | your body. This is one of important things. There is more potassium |
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09:48 | the cell than outside the cell. right, almost in every case in |
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09:53 | body. This is true. So that means is is that when |
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09:57 | when you're talking about potassium ions, ions are going to move out of |
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10:02 | cell and into the external environment. right. So potassium flux is always |
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10:09 | of the cell. And again, are some exceptions to that rule, |
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10:12 | we're not learning the exceptions today. right. So potassium almost always, |
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10:18 | , always is from inside the cell outside the cell. That's the direction |
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10:22 | flux. All right. So that's a little, little greater than |
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10:26 | It's supposed to be an arrow. just too lazy to to click in |
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10:30 | Asy sign. All right, with to sodium, there's always more sodium |
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10:37 | the cell than inside the cell. if I open up ion gated |
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10:41 | what's gonna happen is ion flows into cell? All right. So that's |
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10:47 | always, always, always, there's few exceptions to that rule when it |
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10:52 | to chlorine, there is so much chlorine outside the cell than inside the |
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10:56 | . So chlorine is going to move the cell. And then finally, |
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11:01 | , there's so much more calcium outside cell than inside the cell. So |
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11:05 | you open up calcium channel, calcium into the cell, all right. |
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11:09 | , there's some really weird stuff in . But when we get to the |
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11:12 | and start talking about calcium, you'll why this is true, almost invariably |
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11:17 | . All right. So there is to be questions, I promise you |
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11:21 | are going to be on the They are going to say, |
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11:23 | which direction is flux for this particular ? All right. And so when |
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11:27 | hear the word flux, it's just which direction is it moving? All |
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11:30 | . It's, again, it's that language stuff that you should become aware |
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11:34 | . All right. And this is true in almost every situation so |
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11:42 | No one has raised their hand and , well, why? Oh, |
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11:44 | it is. Let's see, like do. Yeah, you'd say in |
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11:54 | direction would potassium flow as, or way would, which way is potassium |
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11:59 | ? And you and your choices would something like potassium flux is uh out |
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12:04 | the cell. It's gonna be, usually gonna be along that language out |
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12:07 | the cell, into the cell, sort of thing. Yeah, I'm |
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12:10 | gonna try to be tricky. Uh huh. Yes, sir. |
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12:15 | huh. We're not gonna go there uh so uh all right, |
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12:21 | Everyone put down your pencils. Do write this down like in the |
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12:25 | we have two different types of fluids the interstitial fluid and the intracellular fluid |
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12:31 | flipped. So it's backwards. And it's like, trust me, if |
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12:37 | is some place in the body where can be an exception to the |
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12:39 | I guarantee there's gonna be one. that's the example where there is an |
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12:43 | to the rule, but we are gonna learn it today. Excellent. |
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12:48 | right, not learning that today. almost always. So you can just |
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12:52 | ahead and put your brain always, good enough. All right. |
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12:55 | here's something you guys already know, ? You already know opposites attract and |
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13:01 | rappel. OK. That's that is for all sorts of ions, |
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13:06 | If I have a positive charge in negative charge, they will push |
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13:09 | right? If I have two negative , if you've done this with |
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13:13 | you try to push them together, repel and they try to move away |
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13:16 | each other. Same thing with two of a magnet, they move away |
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13:20 | each other. And this is true ions. And so while we have |
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13:24 | concentration gradients, right, so we lots of sodium over here, a |
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13:29 | sodium over here is going to move its gradient. But we have to |
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13:33 | consider charge. When we're looking at movement of ions, see a positively |
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13:38 | ion is attracted to a negatively charged . And so it moves from positive |
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13:43 | negative, right? But every time ion moves it's carrying its charge with |
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13:47 | . So as positive charges move along gradients, they're making that gradient balance |
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13:54 | along charge. And so what will up happening is if you have, |
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13:58 | you can think like this, I lots of positive, very few |
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14:01 | don't think about positive negative. But think in terms of the number of |
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14:04 | as I have lots of positives over and very few positives, what will |
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14:07 | is is you will start reaching an and now you'll start repelling positive |
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14:13 | All right. So when we look ion movement, we don't just consider |
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14:19 | ion, we have to consider the . And this is what is referred |
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14:22 | as the electrical chemical gradient. So things matter. And when we look |
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14:27 | a cell, let's see if I a uh yeah. So we're talking |
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14:33 | that's the charge thing I just All right. So we have both |
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14:36 | concentration gradient which is this stuff. have an electrical gradient which is this |
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14:42 | and then together they are causing the of ions and the consideration of those |
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14:49 | of ions together. And so this what it looks like in a |
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14:54 | In a very simple model. You're that didn't look simple to me. |
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14:59 | right. So let's kind of look this. So you can see here |
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15:03 | our plasma membrane, plasma, plasma is made up of phospholipids. Phospholipids |
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15:09 | no bearing in this. Other than , they're a barrier, right? |
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15:12 | not attracted to, they are not , they're not doing anything to the |
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15:17 | . They just simply sit between the environments, right? So membranes are |
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15:24 | , they're just in the way they're chaperones at a dance, keeping the |
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15:27 | apart. OK. So you can't each other, right? 6 ft |
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15:33 | the outside of the cell. We sodium, we have chlorine, sodium |
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15:36 | chlorine. One's positive, one's negative is positive, chlorine is negative. |
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15:40 | what do they do? Are they to each other? Of course, |
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15:44 | are right? But they're also in watery environment. So they dissociated but |
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15:48 | positive and negative charges are attracted to other on the inside of cells. |
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15:53 | have lots and lots of potassium. can see that you can also see |
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15:55 | have some sodium and chlorine too. what this picture is trying to show |
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15:58 | . Its relative concentrations. Potassium is charged. It's attracted to negative ions |
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16:03 | well. What are the negative ions are inside cells? Well inside the |
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16:08 | , we have lots and lots of and those proteins have negative charges associated |
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16:12 | them. We call them anionic cellular . See the big long scary |
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16:17 | It just means negatively charged proteins. those negative charges are what keeps potassium |
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16:22 | and, or, or, or up. All right. And so |
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16:25 | what you see in this side over is like, here's that cellular protein |
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16:29 | the potassium is like, yeah, attracted to that negative charge. So |
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16:31 | just gonna go hang out with All right. Now, what I'm |
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16:36 | do is I'm gonna describe something to have this all make some clear |
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16:43 | All right, what you're looking at is similar to what you see between |
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16:48 | high schools that are next to each . Have you ever heard of high |
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16:51 | next to each other? If if you are on the west side |
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16:54 | town, a leaf had two high that are next to each other. |
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16:56 | you've gone towards the center part of , there's two high schools next to |
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16:59 | other. It's Lamar and I think Episcopal. I can't remember if they're |
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17:03 | to each other and they're around the because it's just easy to buy a |
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17:06 | plot of land and put two schools next to each other. And you |
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17:09 | imagine in these schools that there are who hook up, right? Did |
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17:12 | know people in high school who were , did you date in high |
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17:16 | Please nod your head and say yes, I did. And so |
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17:19 | was attracted to somebody. How about ? Were you attracted? Do you |
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17:22 | to hang out with them? All . So that's kind of what we're |
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17:25 | here is we're seeing. Although that's strange when you see four of them |
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17:28 | . But you can kind of see , it's like, yeah, I've |
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17:30 | positive charges and negative charges and they together in a high school. I |
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17:34 | guys, girls, please just bear me if you're, we're thinking heterosexual |
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17:38 | , opposites attract, right? they, they like to hang out |
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17:42 | each other. All right. And can imagine at lunchtime, you |
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17:46 | couples like to hang out and look other in the eyes and do go |
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17:49 | gaga faces, right? Like they at each other longingly. I love |
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17:54 | . I love you. I love . I love you. It doesn't |
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17:57 | anything, it's just learning how to social, right? And so you |
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18:01 | imagine it, both high schools have but also in those high schools. |
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18:05 | you have people who are single? you know people in high school who |
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18:10 | single? But did they want to coupled with somebody? Maybe you were |
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18:15 | of those people? Right? But , there's not enough of that going |
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18:20 | . And so you can imagine on campuses next to each other, they |
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18:24 | a fence between the two sort of that you see the fence and let's |
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18:29 | for a moment that instead of lunch stuck in a prison cafeteria, I |
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18:33 | , just a cafeteria that you can anywhere on campus. Right? You |
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18:36 | go outside and so you can go and have lunch underneath that oak tree |
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18:40 | deal with your allergies. And you imagine that everyone going out to lunch |
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18:45 | sitting there and so the couples are there holding hands and doing their little |
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18:49 | bags, smoochy faces. And then have the people who are solo and |
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18:54 | and they walk outside with their little , they walk outside and they look |
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19:00 | that little fence and what do they across the fence? There's something I'm |
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19:07 | to and they turn and look and can imagine on the other campus a |
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19:11 | sad sack looks outside and sees cross fence, something it's attracted to. |
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19:17 | , what are they gonna do? they just gonna keep living their sad |
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19:20 | life? No, they're gonna start towards the fence and they're going to |
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19:24 | through the fence at each other and gonna go, I found you. |
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19:31 | found you, but we're stuck apart of the stupid fence. But that's |
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19:37 | you can see here, right? mean, you see the non paired |
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19:41 | has found a negative charge but it get to it because the fence is |
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19:45 | the way. And so what you're here is the build up of ionic |
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19:50 | around the membrane. All right. , could they get together? Is |
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19:55 | a possibility that this could happen. everyone's dream come true? Right? |
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20:00 | is like a rom rom com, ? Could this happen? Yeah, |
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20:04 | not here. Yes. Yes. we gotta do is open up that |
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20:06 | , right? And then if you up the gate, then that ion |
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20:10 | flow through. So there is a , isn't there? All right. |
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20:15 | , what we're talking about here is potential energy. All right. And |
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20:19 | made this stupid little story up just that you could picture what's actually the |
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20:23 | are doing. Ions are not They're just attracted to a a negative |
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20:27 | . That's because you're always talking positive negative, the positive charge wants to |
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20:31 | inside the cell because there's negative charges . And also because there's a lot |
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20:35 | missing sodium on the inside of the . So it wants to move in |
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20:38 | it can't. So it accumulate it's the surrounding the fence, the |
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20:44 | And so what you can do is can measure the difference between the |
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20:49 | the freely available positive charges and the of positive charges over here right around |
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20:54 | membrane, that's the membrane potential. when you're reading in the book going |
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20:58 | potential, and it's like, oh is really scary word and I don't |
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21:00 | what it means. All it's saying look, we know how many free |
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21:03 | are available and the difference between this and that side, that's the membrane |
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21:09 | it's the potential energy in that And we can measure it in a |
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21:14 | , very simple way. All we can get a volt meter. |
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21:17 | right. And this is what this is trying to show you. It |
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21:19 | , look if we stick an electrode the cell, an electrode outside the |
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21:23 | , we can measure the difference between two charges. And it's going to |
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21:26 | out in terms of number of And in this case, because there's |
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21:30 | few of them or so there's so of them, we measure it in |
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21:33 | volts. That's what this is. like, hey, I'm measuring the |
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21:38 | of the potential between the inside and outside of the cell. All |
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21:42 | if it's a negative value, what seeing here is that the inside of |
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21:46 | cell has more negative charge in the of the cell. And if it's |
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21:50 | positive value, then you just say more positive charges on the inside of |
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21:54 | cell relative to the outside of the . And so every time you look |
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21:59 | these numbers, you're going to see sort of value, it's going to |
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22:02 | negative something because the inside of the has all these anionic cellular proteins that |
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22:07 | haven't matched up yet. And that's it's always more negative come, it's |
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22:12 | the only reason we're gonna just really all the reasons why it is in |
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22:17 | a moment. All right. So membrane potential is simply the difference in |
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22:23 | between the ions on the inside of cell relative to the outside of the |
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22:28 | , not all the ions are right? Because some of the ions |
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22:31 | have their partners. And so they're participating, right, a positive negative |
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22:36 | are are canceling each other out. these are just the free ions that |
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22:39 | available to interact. And so when look at a cell and say this |
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22:44 | the charge, that's what we're referring . This, this difference in charge |
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22:49 | that membrane. Now, physiologists like do math. Do you guys like |
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22:56 | do math? Good. That's a answer. No, I don't like |
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22:59 | do math either. My daughter came to me yesterday and she started throwing |
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23:03 | this trigonometry that I hadn't done in 30 some odd years and said, |
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23:07 | , how do I do this I'm like, I have no |
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23:09 | It has left my brain 20 years , right. Last time I had |
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23:14 | do math was like CALC two in . I mean, other than simple |
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23:20 | . Yeah, I'm, I'm All right. You're not gonna have |
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23:23 | do math on the exam. All , you're not gonna have, you |
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23:26 | this horrible equation down here. Do have to memorize that equation? |
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23:31 | All right. I'm showing it to because it shows you that there are |
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23:34 | principles involved. All right. And you look at an equation like |
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23:38 | Rather than having to do the you can actually see a relationship. |
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23:41 | there a relationship between ions on the and on the inside? The answer |
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23:47 | be yes. If you ever see ratio, which that's what that |
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23:50 | there is a relationship between them. . And what you could do is |
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23:55 | this was my upper level physiology you'd be able to say, |
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23:58 | oh I see that relationship. I plug it in here. So I |
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24:02 | actually do a calculation to determine the concentration inside and outside. I |
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24:07 | I can figure that out fairly quickly understand the directional flow. All |
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24:12 | you're not going to have to do . But what we're looking at here |
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24:15 | what is called the Nernst equation named the guy who discovered it. All |
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24:19 | . And basically what it says, says look um ions are have different |
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24:26 | and there's also an electrical difference between , these ions. And we have |
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24:30 | these different types of ions. And I know the concentration of the ions |
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24:33 | the outside of the cell, on inside of the cell, I can |
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24:36 | the point when ions stop moving. I open up a channel. All |
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24:42 | , I can find the point of based on its electrical charge. All |
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24:47 | . And so that's what this little does. It says, hey, |
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24:50 | I know the outside and the I can look at that ratio and |
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24:53 | can throw it into this equation if know the valence and then what's going |
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24:56 | happen is I'm going to get the of equilibrium. So what that means |
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24:59 | every time an ion moves, remember carrying with it, it's charged. |
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25:03 | we got something moving down its concentration . And as I'm moving down my |
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25:07 | gradient, the electrical gradient is going the opposite direction and there's gonna be |
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25:12 | point where those two things crisscross And balance occurs. And so what |
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25:17 | would the example would be is if I cross that threshold, |
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25:21 | I'm gonna get to the point where , I've created an imbalance and so |
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25:25 | wanna go back the other direction. so I'm now kind of sitting here |
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25:28 | that state where I'm going back and , back and forth and that's the |
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25:32 | . All right. So the Nernst helps us to find the voltage, |
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25:38 | membrane potential where that particular ion stops . In other words, flexing in |
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25:46 | directions is the same. All that's the equilibrium. All right. |
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25:52 | that make sense so far? All right. Let's go to the |
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25:58 | here and then I'll try to explain in opposite directions, not necessarily |
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26:06 | they're in opposite directions, right? think about it if I'm moving in |
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26:11 | direction because of concentration, right? I have a charge when I move |
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26:15 | here, that attraction to move this has decreased. And so there's a |
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26:22 | where as I keep decreasing, decreasing decreasing, I'm gonna get a point |
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26:27 | equilibrium. That's what it's trying to . OK. Um Another way you |
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26:32 | do this is um just trying to of a real simple model here. |
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26:40 | I always want to come back to and girls. All right, is |
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26:43 | OK? Can I stick with the and girls model? All right, |
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26:46 | going to a party? There's uh we're gonna talk to the guys for |
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26:49 | second. So ladies just bear with guys. You're going to a party |
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26:53 | there's 20 girls for every guy. you excited? You? Yeah, |
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26:57 | , you're ready to go to that , right? Because the odds of |
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27:00 | actually meeting somebody is pretty good, ? It's like 20 to 1, |
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27:04 | ? That's awesome. Right? But it starts changing, right? When |
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27:09 | becomes equal, then everyone's gonna have partner. You just got to presume |
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27:13 | it's everyone's gonna be happy, So everyone's gonna have a partner. |
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27:16 | if I switch it the opposite what's gonna happen? Guys are not |
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27:19 | want to go to that party Are they same sort of deal? |
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27:23 | that help at all? Probably Yeah, I know. OK. |
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27:30 | each ion has its own equilibrium right? Because remember all these values |
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27:37 | all the values the same over No. So if the values aren't |
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27:41 | same. That mean the math isn't be the same and you can see |
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27:44 | they come up with different numbers. when do ions, when does potassium |
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27:49 | flowing out of the cell? So is the question to ask is like |
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27:52 | potassium flows out of the cell, what point does potassium stop flowing out |
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27:56 | the cell? Well, when I a membrane potential of minus 89 potassium |
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28:01 | not going to flow out of the anymore. Oh OK. Well, |
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28:04 | about sodium? Well, sodium wants flow into the cell and it will |
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28:08 | flowing into the cell until the inside the cell becomes positive. 60 |
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28:12 | It's really 61 millivolts. But you what I'm saying here and it's |
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28:15 | oh well, what about chlorine? , chlorine basically will flow into the |
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28:20 | until the inside of the cell is 66. And again, these are |
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28:24 | determined mathematically and you can go and it and it matches up, |
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28:29 | But that's really what this is And again, do the numbers matter |
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28:32 | I see the look on your face , oh my goodness, I gotta |
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28:33 | numbers. Do the numbers matter right . No, it's just telling you |
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28:38 | there is a point where flow All right. That's what it's telling |
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28:43 | is. There's a point that's a num, it's a value, it's |
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28:46 | , it's electrical value, a voltage says this ion will stop moving when |
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28:52 | membrane potential reaches this. Now this all theoretical. What you just told |
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28:58 | that this is what happened. it's all theoretical. Why is it |
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29:01 | ? Because how many ions exist at same time in the cell? The |
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29:06 | should be all of them and each them have their own equilibrium potential. |
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29:11 | you can see are these two values same? No. So is potassium |
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29:16 | gonna be moving? Yes. And gonna cause the change in terms of |
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29:22 | . And so what happens is sodium never be able to reach its equilibrium |
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29:27 | , right? Because that's gonna force to start moving and they're all moving |
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29:31 | the same time, they're trying to balance between all of these ions because |
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29:37 | all working together, right? Which the crazy part. So there is |
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29:42 | actual mathematical equation to figure this stupid out. You ready for the ugly |
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29:47 | again? Do you have to memorize ? No, no. OK. |
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29:51 | is the ugly one right here. called the Goldman Hodgkin Ks equation. |
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29:56 | you can look and see why I want you to memorize it right? |
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29:59 | is a lot of stuff there. right. But basically it says |
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30:01 | we have to consider all the ions and oh by the way, it's |
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30:04 | just the ions that are present, how permeable the membrane is to this |
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30:12 | . Well, what is permeability? , permeability refers to the number of |
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30:16 | that are available to that particular Now, here's another stupid example to |
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30:21 | you understand this. You all been a sporting event, let's just use |
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30:24 | football game because they're big and there's of people at them. All |
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30:27 | I been to a sporting event. gone to the bathroom at a sporting |
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30:32 | ? Ladies. Have you gone to bathroom at the sporting event? How |
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30:36 | did it take? You? Let's it's half time you decide it's time |
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30:38 | go to the bathroom. How long it take you to get in and |
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30:41 | of the bathroom forever? You're back at the middle of the third |
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30:47 | right? But guys, how long it take for us to go to |
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30:49 | bathroom? You go down, go the bathroom, come back up and |
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30:53 | know a couple of minutes. No deal, right? Why? All |
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30:58 | . Now we're gonna talk about some that go on in the bathrooms, |
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31:02 | bathrooms in particular versus women's bathrooms. right, ladies, if you don't |
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31:06 | , men typically have in their troughs. All right, we have |
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31:12 | shared bathroom experience is the best way put it. Ok. In other |
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31:17 | , we have these long things when have to go to the bathroom, |
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31:21 | a reason we don't have lines is we don't have to go into our |
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31:24 | individual stall, right? We don't our own toilets we have this |
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31:30 | So if one person goes in, got this 10 ft long trough that |
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31:33 | get to pee in. That's easy . And at half time when you |
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31:37 | 4000 people going to the bathroom at same time, guys, what do |
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31:40 | do? We walk in there, our eyes forward. We look at |
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31:43 | wall, we do our business, to shoulder and then we get out |
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31:46 | , we go wash our hands and get out. That's why it's so |
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31:49 | . We don't have to wait for stall to become free, right? |
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31:54 | , whereas a woman's restroom may be to accommodate 20 women at once and |
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31:58 | restroom can accommodate 100 people at So what would we say about the |
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32:04 | restroom versus the women's restroom? It more permeable or really more minimal in |
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32:10 | case for restroom use, right? that's the same thing as what permeability |
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32:15 | . It's basically saying, hey, many ions are you allowed to pass |
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32:20 | at any given moment? If I more ion channels for say potassium, |
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32:26 | has a greater permeability, the membrane a greater permeability to pa potassium than |
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32:31 | does for sodium. Does that make ? Right. So if I have |
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32:36 | gate for sodium and 10 gate for , who's going to have the greater |
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32:39 | on the membrane should say potassium? that's how it is in the |
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32:46 | And this is what this chart is to show you and we'll go over |
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32:49 | so I can actually circle it. right. Now, the, the |
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32:53 | of this book or whoever drew this did a crappy job because the worst |
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32:58 | you can do is when you're comparing is having fractions in your comparison. |
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33:03 | let's turn these fractions into whole So if this were one, I'd |
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33:10 | to multiply this by 25 to get value. So in essence, what |
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33:15 | is saying is I for every one here, I have 25 potassium |
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33:21 | So for every sodium that passes across membrane, I have 25 channels that |
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33:28 | potassium to pass through. So for one sodium, 25 potassium ions |
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33:36 | So which one has the greater Potassium? So potassium has a massive |
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33:43 | . And we have to consider that what Goldman Hodgkin casts all those |
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33:47 | Those are the, the permeability uh factors. And so again, you |
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33:52 | have to memorize, you don't have do the number. But let's take |
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33:54 | look down here at this graph. right. Now, here's a number |
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33:59 | don't have to memorize, but you're see it enough times that you probably |
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34:02 | remember it forever. All right, membrane potential of a neuron is measured |
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34:09 | minus 70 millivolts. OK. Stick the two things you look in there |
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34:15 | say, oh, that's minus 70 right, minus 70 millivolts where does |
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34:19 | come from? Where does that minus come from? Well, potassium is |
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34:23 | , sodium is moving, chlorine is , calcium is moving. All these |
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34:26 | are moving. But the two that the biggest movers are the sodium and |
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34:29 | potassium, potassium has a greater So it's gonna have a greater effect |
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34:36 | membrane potential. What was the equilibrium of potassium? You can look up |
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34:42 | ? It's way over here minus What was the membrane potential of |
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34:48 | Yeah, way over there. This a 25 fold greater effect. So |
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34:53 | what it does to membrane potential. pulls it way way down and it |
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34:57 | a lot like potassium's equilibrium potential, it? It's not the same, |
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35:01 | it's a lot like it. All . Now, if potassium were to |
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35:06 | out of the cell and reach minus the inside of the cell would get |
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35:10 | 90 if potassium would stop moving, it can never reach minus 90 because |
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35:14 | is moving in and it's pulling it up towards plus 61. But it |
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35:21 | such a little effect that this is as far as we can get. |
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35:25 | so when we're looking at that what we're looking at is the effect |
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35:28 | the ions moving back and forth across membrane. And where is it settling |
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35:34 | ? Where's that balance between the sodium the potassium, moving the chlorine, |
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35:39 | the calcium moving and all the other that we're not considering. Well, |
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35:43 | right there and that's where that resting potential comes from. OK. Did |
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35:53 | tell you this was hard and kind confusing. Yeah. So what we're |
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35:58 | with here is a value. You're see it over and over again. |
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36:03 | gonna hear the term here. We a cell resting at minus 70 |
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36:07 | Why does it rest at minus 70 ? Because that is the value where |
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36:13 | those ions effects cause the cell to in balance. That's what the word |
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36:20 | . OK. It's at equilibrium. , does potassium stop moving here? |
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36:27 | . Does sodium stop moving? So are they in equilibrium? If |
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36:32 | answer is no, for both of ? Are they in equilibrium? |
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36:36 | So you can imagine there's moving and moving and eventually over time, the |
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36:41 | would find its equilibrium. Potassium would its equilibrium and everything would just basically |
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36:45 | moving via concentrations. But we have other thing that's working right. |
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36:50 | do you guys remember us talking about sodium potassium A TP A pumps? |
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36:54 | you remember me mentioning those long, time ago? This is in that |
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36:58 | unit and you're like, OK, is he telling me this another thing |
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37:01 | memorize? Great. Now all the I talk about are important at some |
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37:04 | . All right, I don't just things out there to be mean. |
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37:07 | right, those pumps are there just a pump on a boat is |
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37:12 | If water gets in the boat, gonna happen to the boat it's gonna |
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37:16 | . So how do you keep the out of the boat? You have |
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37:18 | pumps and those bilge pumps sit there go. Ok, let's pump the |
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37:21 | back out of the boat. And what the sodium potassium A TP A |
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37:24 | does. See it takes that sodium moving into the cell and says, |
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37:27 | , no, no, I don't you here. I'm gonna pump you |
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37:30 | out and I'm gonna put you back you started. And uh by |
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37:33 | by the way, um this potassium just left, I want it back |
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37:36 | the cell. So I'm bringing the back in. So what we're doing |
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37:40 | we're moving sodium and potassium back where started and they move back down their |
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37:46 | and then you grab them and you them back and they just keep doing |
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37:48 | . And so we're finding a point equilibrium for all of these things through |
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37:53 | different systems. And so all the in your body have this sort of |
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37:58 | that's going on. There is every in your body has a resting membrane |
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38:05 | . Every cell has this imbalance, cell is constantly moving ions to ensure |
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38:11 | this is happening to that, that inside of the cell is remaining constant |
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38:16 | to the outside of the cell. it's the muscles and the nerves that |
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38:22 | advantage of this system to create electrical . The reason you're able to move |
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38:30 | because your cells take advantage of the of ions and create contractions. The |
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38:35 | you're able to understand the words that coming out of my mouth for the |
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38:38 | part is because of the electrical activity these cells using these mechanisms. Good |
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38:55 | . Mhm That yeah. So this this is a a homeostatic example what |
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39:01 | just described. So there there is basically what you say is you have |
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39:05 | body that's an open system. All , again, I'm getting all wonky |
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39:08 | technical clear, it's called an open because I got stuff always leaving, |
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39:12 | I'm always adding things in and so a point where it's like it's just |
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39:15 | constant, right? So the example you often see is a bucket being |
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39:21 | with water and the water is not up because there's a hole in the |
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39:24 | allowing water to leave at the same . And so the resting membrane potential |
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39:29 | is similar to that. It's not but it's similar to that. And |
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39:33 | is it similar? Well, because though I have ions moving both in |
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39:37 | out, I'm also having a system moving things back to where they |
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39:42 | So while things are following the rules equilibrium constant, right? This idea |
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39:48 | oh I'm going to move down my gradient, right? I'm attracted to |
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39:54 | that's oppositely charged my electrical gradient. though those things are true, I |
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40:00 | to consider every ion doing those Right. But on top of |
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40:05 | I have something that's saying every time of my ions moves, I'm going |
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40:09 | start moving them back and that's what lasts a little bit here. So |
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40:13 | we have a membrane potential at minus is because of the equilibrium uh constants |
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40:18 | the equilibrium potentials for all of those plus this pump system. And we're |
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40:24 | take advantage of this. And that's the next half of this lecture is |
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40:29 | . Plus the next lecture is on we use it. All right. |
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40:35 | I'm gonna pause for a moment. you guys mold this for a second |
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40:39 | ask me anything you want, like or not we're gonna win the national |
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40:42 | . There you go. Yes. the pump itself is the way to |
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40:55 | that the system doesn't stop and slow . All right. So imagine you |
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41:00 | have this pump would sodium keep moving its gradient until there's a concentration |
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41:07 | It would, it would try, mean, they would find it would |
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41:09 | a point of, of balance in of concentration, the the electrical potential |
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41:14 | change, it would probably shift a bit around here someplace. But potassium |
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41:18 | to move out of the cell until found kind of a balance for |
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41:22 | And the answer is yes. And what you're doing here is you're preventing |
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41:25 | from happening. All right, you're, you're allowing another mechanism, |
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41:31 | pump to come along and say, , I know at some point you |
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41:34 | find equilibrium. I'm never gonna let get there. I'm gonna just keep |
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41:38 | you back so that we keep the flowing. That's the idea. That |
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41:44 | be a good way to think about . Say, say that again. |
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41:53 | . OK. Question. What's the of the leak channels? Well, |
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41:56 | leak channel is what allows these ions move freely? All right. So |
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42:01 | talked about the gated channels. We , we didn't even mention but everything |
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42:05 | just looked at in terms of these that allow these ions to pass through |
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42:09 | now are always open, always open are called leak channels. So you're |
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42:15 | at potassium leak channels and you're looking sodium leak channels, the ratio of |
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42:20 | is 25 to 1. In this , I've read other texts that refer |
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42:23 | being between 5075 to 1. So can see the massive effect potassium has |
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42:29 | why it pulls this membrane down so ? All right. Why is it |
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42:33 | rest at this point? It's because has such a massive effect? All |
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42:39 | , that's the idea here. Any questions? Did I make it |
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42:46 | Did I make it clear as mud did I, did I, did |
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42:50 | make it clearer than it was when read about it. Let me answer |
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42:55 | question. 123. So you won and then three. Go ahead. |
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43:00 | do you need the leak channels? if you didn't have flow, then |
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43:04 | have nothing to take advantage of. you'll see why here in a little |
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43:06 | . OK. That's really gonna be about tomorrow's lecture than anything else. |
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43:11 | leak channels are there because you have have the the ability of an ion |
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43:14 | move and create this great internet or this sort of membrane potential in the |
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43:19 | place. All right, you're CRE what, what did I say a |
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43:23 | potential was it's potential energy. All . Now this is, this |
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43:28 | I know this is a far not everyone's taken physics and, and |
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43:30 | know for sure that not everyone, of you have been taken college |
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43:33 | but in high school, did you physics? Did you learn about potential |
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43:37 | versus kinetic energy? Other than three in the front that are shaking their |
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43:42 | up and down back in the Did you guys learn about potential energy |
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43:45 | kinetic energy? OK. Potential energy energy that you can use, |
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43:50 | It's stored energy. Kinetic energy is in motion. See, there we |
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43:56 | . Check mark, we got that can move on. All right. |
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43:59 | what we're doing is we're creating potential , something that we can use for |
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44:03 | activity of these cells later. Next , essentially the degree that very good |
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44:13 | . That might be a way that phrase it on the test. He |
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44:16 | . So what you're saying is that greater the um greater the permeability, |
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44:20 | greater the effect that ion has on membrane potential. The answer is |
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44:25 | All right. So the greater the , the greater the effect that that |
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44:31 | ion has on that membrane potential. . We're going to see this in |
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44:38 | tomorrow for sure. All right, gonna see how we start manipulating these |
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44:43 | a little, little bit, a bit later. I said tomorrow. |
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44:46 | you know Thursday. Yes. so the mi minus 70 is always |
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45:06 | . That's the balance between all of , right? So this is where |
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45:10 | cell is at. But if you at potassium, where does it want |
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45:14 | go? It wants to go So potassium will always move until it |
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45:18 | this point. But you never reach point because you're always stuck here. |
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45:22 | make sure I'm pointing at the right . All right. What about |
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45:25 | Chlorine is always moving, right? it's trying to get here, but |
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45:30 | stuck over there. Now, which moves faster do you think if you |
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45:34 | to, if you had to do rate of diffusion, right? And |
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45:38 | that we've never talked about rates of other than concentration gradients. But what |
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45:42 | you think? Does this move faster slower than this one. This one |
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45:54 | faster than this one. It moves . It has less to go. |
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46:00 | . That's, that's the way you think about. It's like if I'm |
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46:02 | at near stoplight, I'm gonna be of going slow. Right. Because |
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46:06 | don't have that far to go. if I'm far away I'm still |
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46:10 | Right. I mean, I know Texas, we're gonna speed right up |
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46:13 | the stoplight. But what about this ? It wants to go really |
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46:18 | right? It's trying desperately but it go fast. Why can't it go |
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46:21 | ? Because it doesn't have the right , but it really wants to get |
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46:26 | . I got a long way to . Any other questions about membrane |
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46:35 | Uh huh. Go ahead. this is good. The two, |
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46:39 | average and that's exactly what this does what this equation, right? I |
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46:46 | , you look at that and you see there's a lot of letters in |
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46:49 | but what is this showing you? just gonna point here the permeability times |
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46:54 | concentration, permeability, times the So you can see here how this |
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47:00 | weight to it based on that Again, we don't have to do |
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47:04 | math. You don't know, need know the equation. I'm not gonna |
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47:07 | you, I just wanted to show the relationship. OK. There are |
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47:13 | out there even in the community colleges make you memorize this and do |
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47:18 | It's just mean, I don't think important enough. You know, if |
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47:22 | a physiologist, it becomes important. right, I'm gonna move. So |
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47:27 | want you to put in your brain now. OK. I'm dealing with |
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47:31 | potentials. All right. That's, the thing I want you to hold |
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47:34 | to right now. And what we're do is we're gonna shift back to |
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47:38 | . All right, we're gonna come to this in just a second. |
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47:41 | right. So what I wanna do I want to look at a |
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47:43 | So the neuron is the fa cell is the functional cell of the nervous |
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47:49 | . This is where we're gonna spin of the rest of these lectures on |
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47:52 | talking about neurons. So we should of understand what they are. All |
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47:55 | . So this is what we refer as being an excitable cell. It's |
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47:58 | to take that membrane potential that every has. So remember, everyone has |
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48:02 | own membrane potential. They're not all 70 neurons are minus 70. And |
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48:06 | it's going to do is it's going use that membrane potential to be able |
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48:10 | change it, manipulate it so that can produce electrical impulses. Now, |
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48:16 | often you'll hear people talk about use electrical impulses to talk to each |
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48:19 | . And that's not necessarily true. a way to think about it, |
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48:22 | it's not necessarily true. What you think about is that neurons can be |
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48:26 | , very long cells. They're also , very small cells, but they |
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48:28 | be very long cells. And what doing is you're sending an electrical impulse |
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48:34 | the length of the cell from one of the cell to the other so |
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48:38 | you can then communicate to the next through a chemical message. All |
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48:42 | So the electrical signal is along its . So here is the body of |
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48:46 | cell, this is the next So the electrical signal goes along here |
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48:51 | then here is where you're gonna release chemical. But we still refer to |
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48:55 | as electrical signaling. It's not entirely . All right. But what we're |
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49:00 | is that electrical signal is a function the change in that membrane potential. |
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49:05 | right. So these cells live in long period of time. Basically, |
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49:11 | neurons that you're born with are the that you die with. All |
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49:15 | there's very few new neurons that are throughout your lifetime. I mean, |
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49:19 | early on during development. Yes. as you age, what you have |
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49:24 | what you have. All right. are a mitotic. When you ever |
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49:28 | a, at the beginning of the it means not right. So they're |
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49:31 | mitotic cells, they are not actively . So that's why I'm saying once |
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49:37 | born with them, you more or have what you have. All |
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49:41 | they're also highly metabolic meaning they are all the time and they are consuming |
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49:48 | part, primarily oxygen and glucose. reason you have such a huge need |
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49:52 | the fuel that you have is because these types of cells. All |
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49:58 | So these are the cells of the system. Now, we need to |
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50:01 | there's, there's some language that goes this. I'm just going to let |
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50:05 | know right now, very early on didn't understand that every cell had the |
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50:09 | pieces parts. And so what they is they discover a new cell type |
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50:12 | they would start naming things and give special names and they didn't understand. |
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50:17 | yeah, this is just the cell . This is just this. And |
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50:20 | these names are terminology that have stuck the nervous system because of when those |
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50:26 | were discovered. So with the the cyto the cytoplasm. So the |
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50:31 | inside there is called the Pericar All right. So just need to |
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50:36 | about this. This is where all organelles are located. So basically all |
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50:39 | machinery of the cell are located in Pericar on which is located in the |
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50:43 | or cell body of the neuron. right. So you can see |
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50:49 | soma cell body, this would be material inside is the pericar on the |
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50:55 | . Got a special name because a who was doing research on the neuron |
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50:59 | found this stain that actually caused the to pop. And then create a |
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51:03 | tiny Granules and they're like, look, and they call them Nel |
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51:06 | . They're ribosomes. All right. when you see a Nile body, |
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51:10 | what you should think. Ok. the ribosomes and all the cellular machinery |
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51:13 | located in the cell body. that's where I expect them to |
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51:16 | And then what you have is you a bunch of extensions that come off |
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51:22 | cell body. There's two different All right, these are called dendrites |
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51:26 | axons. Collectively, you can refer them as dendrite. Dendrite literally means |
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51:32 | like a tree branch. All So that's why they named them the |
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51:35 | they are. But one and the are functionally different from each other. |
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51:39 | when you see different names, you , oh yeah, it has a |
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51:42 | name because it has a different All right. Now, typically, |
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51:49 | you're gonna find is neurons are gonna found in clusters. All right, |
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51:52 | cell bodies are gonna be grouped together the axons are typically gonna be grouped |
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51:56 | and they're traveling into and those axons gonna be traveling into particular directions. |
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52:00 | get to that in a moment. when I'm looking at the cell |
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52:03 | a clump of cell bodies together in central nervous system, which is your |
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52:09 | and your spinal cord are referred to a nuclei. All right, that's |
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52:14 | nucleus like what we have here, it's the same word. So, |
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52:18 | just a cluster of those cells. when you're out in the peripheral nervous |
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52:21 | , so everything outside of your brain your spinal cord, we're gonna refer |
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52:25 | these clusters of cell bodies as All right. So gangly and nuclear |
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52:31 | the same thing. They're just located different places. So they have unique |
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52:36 | for where they're, where they're When we go to these processes, |
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52:42 | grouped together dendrites, when you're looking one of them, right? So |
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52:48 | one right here is the axon, axon is the sending branch. So |
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52:54 | are sent from the cell body The axon, the dendrites are the |
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53:01 | branches. So when information is received other cells, they are received from |
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53:05 | dendrites. So dendrites take messages or signals, send them to the cell |
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53:12 | and from the cell body down and through the axon. Now, when |
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53:18 | take a group of these axons and moving together, they're usually again clump |
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53:23 | and they're moving in the, in same direction in the peripheral nervous |
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53:27 | we call those nerves. All But in the central nervous system, |
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53:32 | don't have any nerves, there are nerves in the central nervous system, |
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53:36 | call them tracks. All right. when you hear nerve, don't think |
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53:42 | inside my brain or my spinal I'm outside. And when I hear |
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53:46 | , oh, I'm inside the central system, but it's the same |
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53:50 | It's the groups of axons moving in same direction. The cell body has |
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53:57 | point where it becomes the axon that called the axon Hillock. You'll see |
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54:04 | , it's called the trigger zone. right. So when we're talking about |
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54:08 | potentials, this is where our focus gonna be. This is where we |
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54:13 | the action potential. And you're sitting going, I don't know, an |
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54:17 | potential is, that's fine. We'll to that in, in uh in |
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54:21 | lecture. All right, I'm pointing out now. So the Axon Hillock |
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54:25 | where the signal, the action potential produced. Moving down the axon, |
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54:31 | axon is not just a single line single extension, it can actually branch |
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54:37 | it branches. We refer to the as a collateral. All right. |
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54:41 | this one doesn't show a collateral and at the very bottom, you're gonna |
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54:46 | that axon split and become a bunch little tiny fingers. These are called |
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54:52 | TDRI and at the base of the , that's where we have the axon |
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54:58 | . The other name for the axon is the synaptic knob. So here |
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55:03 | are just looking a little bit closer you can see this uh for the |
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55:07 | and why we distinguish this. So the cellular machinery is gonna be locating |
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55:11 | cell body. There are no uh machinery inside the axon itself. All |
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55:18 | . So the axon is very specific terms of its functionality. All |
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55:23 | It is specific in conducting electrical signals its length. All right. |
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55:29 | if I was the cell body and arm was an axon, its sole |
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55:33 | is to send signals from here down my fingers, which would be the |
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55:39 | . All right, we don't receive direction we send. That's the only |
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55:43 | that this does. All right, cytoplasm inside the axon no different than |
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55:52 | cytoplasm or the pericar on in the body, right? It's still the |
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55:55 | fluid and the same ions, et , et cetera. But we give |
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55:58 | a special name, we call it axoplasm. Great muscles have their own |
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56:03 | for their stuff too. And it makes you mad. All right, |
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56:06 | axoplasm. And then the plasma you'll sometimes see people refer to it |
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56:10 | the axolemma. That's just the fancy saying plasma membrane of the axon. |
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56:15 | right. So terrible cartoon. But demonstrates what we're trying to get to |
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56:24 | , what we have. Here's our body. This is all the machinery |
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56:27 | that's making all the things that the makes. The way the cell talks |
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56:30 | one cell to the next is gonna through a chemical message, right? |
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56:34 | all the chemical messages that the axon making is being made in the cell |
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56:40 | . But the way that I'm talking that next cell is way down here |
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56:44 | the axon terminals. So I have get that message that chemical down |
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56:50 | And so we use a form of to do so. So we have |
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56:56 | skeletal elements, elements inside there. if I'm moving materials from the cell |
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57:01 | , I'm gonna be moving them through usually. And what I'm gonna do |
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57:05 | I'm gonna move them towards that synaptic in the TDRI and the, |
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57:11 | the, the type of, of we refer to when we're moving towards |
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57:16 | Axon terminal is called anterograde transport. right. So that's what we're seeing |
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57:23 | here if I'm moving back to the body. So materials that I pick |
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57:27 | at the Axon terminal, I'm going transport back to be processed. This |
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57:32 | be retrograde transport. Now there are different speeds. We can do it |
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57:38 | or we can do it slow fast about 400 millimeters per day. So |
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57:43 | about how big a millimeter is take 400 of them, right? So |
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57:50 | centimeter would be 10 or it would 100 I'm doing that wrong. It's |
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57:55 | millimeters and then you take 10 of or 100 of those that would be |
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57:59 | a meter. So you know, hun 4 m, right? Is |
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58:02 | is that am I am I accurate ? Yes. No. Ok. |
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58:07 | making sure cent is 100. So about 4 4 m per |
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58:12 | So that seemed pretty fast. How are you? Are you bigger than |
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58:16 | m? How long is your entire ? If you're 6 ft, roughly |
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58:24 | m. So, in about half day, you can move something from |
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58:28 | brain down to your big toe. right. So not particularly fast, |
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58:34 | it's faster. But look at slow to three millimeters per day. That |
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58:42 | . No, no, it's gonna forever. The difference here is like |
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58:45 | getting on a, on a little tube and just sitting on a river |
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58:48 | letting it take you wherever you want go. The other one is |
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58:51 | They're using uh A TP and motor and that's what they're trying to show |
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58:55 | here. See a little motor little motor proteins carrying things around. |
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58:59 | if it's fast, you have energy invested in moving it quickly. If |
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59:04 | slow, no energy question. fast, slow. All right, |
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59:13 | is real slow, fast, relatively . OK. Does that make sense |
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59:20 | far in terms of structure? Could draw yourself a neuron and label the |
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59:27 | ? I mean, maybe not this second. But could you do that |
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59:28 | the next 24 hours? The answer be. Yes. All right. |
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59:34 | . Yes, ma'am. Oh So , this, you're asking a very |
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59:43 | question that I didn't really kind of . So when we're talking about the |
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59:47 | message, so the question is, neurotransmitter, I've read, I read |
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59:51 | word neurotransmitter. What the hell are talking about? Doctor Wayne? More |
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59:54 | less what you just said. So, the chemical message that a |
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59:59 | is producing is called a neurotransmitter. way that a neurotransmitter gets to the |
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60:05 | where it can be released has to through a method of delivery. All |
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60:09 | . So, all we're doing is saying if this is where I'm releasing |
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60:13 | , but I'm making it here, do I get the neurotransmitter to |
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60:18 | Well, I'm going to carry it a vesicle and I'm gonna move it |
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60:21 | and I'm gonna set it down here there. So we're not talking about |
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60:24 | neurotransmitter itself being released from the We're just talking about how do I |
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60:28 | the neurotransmitter to the place where it's to get the get released? |
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60:48 | So you're asking a really good right? And again said, wait |
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60:53 | minute, I've got all these messages all these signals I have to make |
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60:57 | this is as fast as it is this enough? Is really what |
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61:01 | saying? Right. And the answer yes, because you're not releasing a |
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61:05 | of chemical at any given time, producing much, much more and storing |
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61:09 | away for that particular release. so you're not, you have more |
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61:15 | storage at the end of your, your axons to release that chemical message |
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61:22 | you actually need. So you're only a couple of molecules at a |
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61:26 | Chemical messaging is incredibly powerful, which why it's very highly controlled. And |
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61:33 | you're not gonna run out, think , think about how many times your |
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61:38 | are firing just right now listening to , but your brain doesn't explode and |
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61:44 | don't just pass out or anything. brain is able to keep up because |
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61:48 | only a couple of neurotransmitter molecules that using at any given moment and is |
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61:53 | this every single solitary millisecond milliseconds, ? Millions upon millions of synapses are |
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62:03 | right now to tell you to tell what to do. Yep. |
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62:26 | Question is so any sort of small of this transfer system can screw things |
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62:32 | ? Oh Yeah. Like I you guys are walking miracles. You |
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62:41 | a system that is in perfect This is why you guys are in |
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62:45 | class and why you all wanna go this profession or into a profession of |
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62:50 | . Because you can already see, got all these crazy systems. We're |
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62:55 | even toe deep in this stuff yet you can already see if this goes |
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63:01 | . You mean the cells start messing ? Uh huh Yeah, let's learn |
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63:07 | language. OK. Um Talking we're using some terminology and this is |
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63:17 | so that we're all on the same . I could just re repeat them |
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63:22 | you, but I want you to this. You remember back in third |
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63:24 | when you started working on number remember the number lines had the line |
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63:29 | in both directions, zero in the . All right. So if you're |
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63:33 | me, which direction is this positive negative? That's negative over here is |
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63:37 | . OK. So if I'm sitting my, on my, on my |
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63:42 | , right? My number line I'm zero, I'm neutral. OK. |
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63:46 | has no polarity to it. But I step off of zero in either |
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63:51 | , I have polarity, right? if I go over here to minus |
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63:56 | , I have polarity. If I over here to plus one, I |
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63:59 | polarity, if I go way over to plus 100 or plus 1000 or |
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64:03 | 1 million or in the opposite So anything that's not zero, it's |
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64:09 | makes sense. So I'm gonna become for you. All right, I'm |
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64:19 | just go over here since we gonna over here in the world of |
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64:21 | I'm gonna be negative right now. here I am standing at minus |
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64:25 | So am I polar? Yes. all your cells because they have a |
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64:30 | potential of something other than zero, already exist in a polar state. |
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64:35 | right. Now, if I become negative, what have I become, |
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64:41 | become more polar, right? If go back over here, I'm still |
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64:46 | at my minus 70 I'm still And if I move in this direction |
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64:52 | have still polar, aren't I? am I more polar or less polar |
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64:55 | I started? If this is where started. I'm less. All |
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64:59 | So I'm gonna come back to my state. If I move in this |
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65:04 | , I've become less polar. I d polarized. OK. So the |
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65:11 | D polar means become less polar than were. When you started, when |
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65:15 | returned back to my polarized state, have re polarized. All right. |
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65:22 | if I become more polarized than when started, I have hyper polarized. |
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65:28 | , given that I'm living over here the land of negative. This is |
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65:31 | most of our language exists. All . But if I started way over |
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65:39 | , what do you think? Plus ? Does that look like? Plus |
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65:42 | ? So if I move this what have I done? I've |
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65:46 | I've been less po and I'm, I move back to my polarized |
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65:49 | I've rep polarized. And if I over here, I've hyper polarized because |
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65:54 | started off polar. All right. , this language is consistent and you |
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66:00 | see what I've done is I'm the graph shows you up and down positive |
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66:04 | and so on and so forth. one place where this gets all kind |
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66:07 | weird and screwed up and it's gonna when we deal with the action potential |
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66:10 | you start off polarized and you depolarize you cross over zero and you go |
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66:16 | the way up to plus 30 then go back again, we don't change |
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66:19 | language just because, because we crossed zero because it's all in one single |
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66:23 | . So what we're gonna see is we're gonna depolarize and we cross over |
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66:27 | , we still depolarize because it's the motion and then we're gonna stop and |
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66:31 | we're gonna return back and that would repolarization. OK? So just use |
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66:36 | language as, as you see, like, oh I start off |
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66:39 | I'm gonna depolarize or I'm gonna You just gotta remember which direction am |
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66:43 | moving? Am I becoming more more negative, more positive than I |
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66:49 | or did I get less of what started? And that's where you use |
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66:52 | language now because we're gonna be living the land of negative. Typically, |
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66:57 | is what you're gonna see a net flow of positive ions. So let's |
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67:03 | if anyone was paying attention which ion a is positively charged and flows into |
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67:08 | cell. Sodium good. So a inward flow of positive ions results in |
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67:14 | . So when sodium flows into the , we call it depolarization, a |
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67:18 | outward flow. Notice they're never right? It's never negative ions, |
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67:22 | net outward flow of positive ions. one did that? Potassium results in |
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67:28 | polarization. All right. So those are gonna be things you're gonna see |
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67:33 | and over and over again as we through the next two lectures and then |
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67:38 | beyond, we're gonna say and we the polarization and blah, blah, |
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67:42 | . And you got to connect those to what we're seeing. All |
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67:46 | So if, if this is just draw it out for you just |
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67:49 | the little graph and say, here I'm going up so I've started |
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67:51 | polarized. What do I do? , here I'm depolarizing. Here. |
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67:54 | coming down, I'm rep polarizing. draw it out so you can visualize |
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67:59 | . Now, coming back to our here, we're back to that membrane |
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68:04 | , membrane potentials. It's just the we're going to see over and over |
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68:08 | . A change in the membrane potential a result in a change in its |
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68:11 | state. All right, it's going result in an electrical signal in neurons |
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68:16 | muscles. All right. So if can change the permeability of the |
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68:20 | remember, we said permeability matters. we change that permeability, we're going |
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68:24 | change membrane potential because we're no longer that balance, we're now switching the |
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68:31 | out. So we're going to move towards where the equilibrium potential for potassium |
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68:36 | or we're gonna move towards equilibrium potential or for um sodium because those are |
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68:41 | two major ones. Anything that alters ion concentration again, going back to |
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68:46 | Hodgkins cats. If I change those concentrations, if I go back and |
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68:50 | at those formulas that talked about those , if I change the ratios that's |
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68:54 | to have an effect. Well, can think about this look if I |
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68:58 | a slope like this and I go certain speed down the slope, if |
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69:01 | change the slope, am I going go faster? Yeah. All |
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69:05 | So it's gonna have an effect. both those two things which are in |
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69:09 | equations that I showed you, which don't have to memorize, they have |
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69:13 | effect on the membrane potential. So times kinds of potential changes. And |
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69:19 | here we're getting into that language, have a graded potential and we have |
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69:23 | action potential. Again, notice what potential stands for. Talks about the |
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69:28 | potential. What type of poten? have a graded potential. When you |
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69:31 | the word graded, it means it different heights, right? So it's |
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69:37 | grade. So graded potentials deal with changes. And so these types of |
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69:44 | potentials, we're gonna go through them here in just a moment are going |
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69:47 | deal with short term signals, very distances. So if I think about |
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69:53 | cell like a neuron, it's gonna across a very small portion of the |
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69:58 | . But then we have the action , the action potential long distance |
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70:01 | That's when I have a very long like the neurons that traveled down the |
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70:06 | of my arm from my spinal cord go to my pinky to cause it |
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70:10 | wiggle. That signal is a very signal. And that's where I'm going |
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70:14 | use the axon. And I'm gonna an electrical signal that travels the length |
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70:18 | that axon. And that's what tomorrow's is on is going to be on |
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70:22 | action potential. So I want to here on the graded potential. So |
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70:27 | we are, we're looking at a , we're looking at the neuron cell |
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70:30 | . Can you tell we're on the cell body? See the dendrite, |
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70:34 | dendrite, the dendrite, we're down . Do you see all that? |
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70:39 | . And so what this is showing says, look here, I have |
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70:42 | neuron releasing a chemical message and that message is binding to a channel. |
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70:49 | this would be what type of gated ligand gated channel, right? We |
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70:55 | ligand is where you have a And so what that's gonna do is |
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70:58 | gonna open up the channel and this channel happens to be uh a sodium |
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71:04 | . So when I open up the channel, what's sodium gonna want to |
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71:08 | wants to go in, right? we said with sodium, sodium wants |
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71:11 | move in the cells. And so open up the channel, sodium rushes |
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71:14 | and starts looking for that partner. like where is that negative charge that |
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71:18 | looking for? And so you can where do I have the most |
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71:21 | Where do I have the most positive ? Free sodium is right here where |
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71:25 | coming in. But as I move from that opening, I'm starting to |
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71:29 | partners. And so the free sodium available gets less and less and less |
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71:34 | . The further and further I move . So if I were to graph |
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71:37 | out, what I would see is , I have the greatest amount of |
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71:42 | in terms of charge right underneath where gate is open. And the further |
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71:46 | away, that charge diminishes and then becomes like the rest of the cell |
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71:52 | falls away. So again, I you to picture, remember the the |
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71:57 | I used is you have somebody with brown bag looking through the gate, |
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72:02 | gate opens. What am I looking ? I'm looking for my partner. |
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72:05 | once I find that partner, I'm longer looking for a partner, all |
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72:10 | little arrows are representing lonely sodiums still to find a partner as they flow |
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72:16 | from the gate. And so a uh sorry graded potential has characteristic to |
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72:25 | . All right, it's a very small change. It has a |
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72:29 | degree of magnitude. Magnitude is just term that means it has a certain |
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72:35 | to it. You guys remember despicable , right? Vector I commit crimes |
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72:42 | magnitude and direction. That's what a is. Magnitude is just simply |
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72:48 | So here varying magnitude. So this just an example, the 10 millivolts |
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72:55 | here, five millivolts change. It be a depolarization or hyper polarization is |
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72:59 | depolarization. What kind of ion is ? Sodium or potassium sodium, if |
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73:07 | a hyper polarization, it would be . And we're also gonna learn it |
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73:11 | also be chlorine. But for right , just that, all right, |
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73:16 | great potential is gonna be due to sort of triggering event. A triggering |
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73:20 | simply means opening up a channel. that's what we see here. We've |
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73:24 | up a channel to allow sodium to in the magnitude and the duration of |
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73:30 | greater potential is going to be directly to the magnitude and the duration of |
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73:34 | stimulus. All right. Now, is just an example. This is |
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73:37 | how it really happens in the Imagine I have a needle in my |
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73:43 | and if I come up to you go poop, would you feel it |
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73:47 | I poked you with the needle Yeah. Would it have a |
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73:52 | Yeah, very small one, Because magnitude of strength, right? |
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73:56 | about duration if I went poop? duration? Right. So far? |
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74:01 | . What if I went like Would it have a greater magnitude? |
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74:06 | have a greater duration in terms of pain? Yeah. OK. Now |
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74:10 | me taking a running start and then in you greater magnitude, greater |
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74:18 | Yeah, greater potentials have both those based on the stimulus itself. |
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74:27 | everything I just showed described there, are not greater potentials. That's just |
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74:31 | of duration of magnitude. All So the stronger the triggering event. |
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74:36 | you can see here here is the event, the stronger it is the |
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74:40 | the magnitude of the greater potential. isn't showing duration. But you can |
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74:44 | if duration was in this direction, this was longer, then this would |
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74:47 | longer. Ok. Second thing, decrease in intensity as they go further |
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74:55 | further away. We've already described why they found their partner. When they |
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74:58 | their partner, they die out You can visualize this. Think about |
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75:02 | little rock that you're throwing into a pond. If I throw a rock |
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75:05 | the pond, does it make a ? Doesn't make a splash? |
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75:10 | So think about it, a little rock, a little tiny rock makes |
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75:12 | little small splash. It creates a and that ripple moves away and eventually |
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75:16 | out, the bigger the pond you'd see it dying out, right? |
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75:20 | I took a big giant rock, it make a bigger ripple, make |
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75:23 | bigger splash and a bigger ripple? it would take longer for that thing |
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75:26 | die out, but eventually it would out. Now, in a |
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75:29 | the dying out is a result of resistance of the water to the force |
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75:33 | causing the water to move here. because of the partnering of those positive |
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75:37 | or negative ions to their opposite All right. So that's why it |
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75:42 | out. So greater potentials have an that dies out over distance. And |
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75:51 | they are very short lived. All . They come and they go, |
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75:57 | don't have a duration to them. , the only duration that they're limited |
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76:01 | is based on the stimulus itself. are we doing on time? We're |
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76:05 | 46. All right. Um This just the same slide and it's just |
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76:10 | to show you here with, if were to measure it. So here |
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76:12 | can see the stimulation, notice that doesn't have a particular direction it goes |
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76:16 | all directions, just kind of like rock being thrown into the pond, |
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76:20 | travels in all these different directions. here you could say, look at |
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76:23 | big it is here like the big splash. But as I move further |
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76:26 | further away, it dies out over . So if I want to get |
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76:31 | really, really far, what kind stimulation should I have a big one |
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76:34 | a small one? A big OK. Good. We have two |
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76:42 | types of potentials here. And what looking at is we're looking at the |
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76:46 | cell. All right. So you see in our little picture up |
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76:49 | we have two cells, we have that's sending one that is receiving. |
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76:52 | we're looking at the greater potential here the receiving cell, I opened |
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76:56 | I released my chemical message I received . And so what's going to happen |
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77:00 | if that signal is excitatory opens up that allows for sodium to rush into |
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77:05 | cell, then I'm going to get positive depolarization, right. I'm going |
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77:09 | depolarize. And so this type of is referred to as excitatory, post |
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77:15 | potentials. When you see all those stuck together, each one means something |
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77:19 | . It's a depolarization, post the interaction between those two cells is |
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77:25 | a synapse. And so it's on receiving side, post synaptic on the |
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77:29 | side and then the potentials again, just referring to that it's a graded |
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77:34 | . All right. So when you this, what you're looking at is |
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77:37 | looking at sodium rushing into the cell always. So sodium moves into the |
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77:41 | and potassium is not moving out of cell. So that's why you see |
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77:45 | depolarization and then ultimate rep polarization. ep SPS are depolarizations. So what |
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77:51 | you think IP SPS are inhibitory postsynaptic ? They're hyper polarization. And here |
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77:58 | we're doing is we're opening up either potassium channel or a chlorine channel. |
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78:02 | I'm opening up a potassium channel, is rushing out when I'm opening up |
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78:05 | chlorine channel. Basically, things are of staying in balance. And so |
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78:08 | don't really see a lot of stuff on. But what you're seeing now |
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78:12 | you're seeing a hyper polarization in the . So inhibitory postsynaptic potentials are moving |
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78:20 | and further away from what we're going call threshold. Basically, the cell |
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78:24 | becoming hyper polarized. It's just the . Now, at any given time |
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78:29 | cell is being talked to. So a neuron and you can see in |
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78:33 | neuron, we have lots of cells to it. You see all those |
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78:36 | there, the cell is purple. the little blue things are synapses. |
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78:40 | what we have here is we have lot of cells that are sending |
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78:45 | some of them are positive, some them are negative. It's like going |
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78:48 | to your social media of choice and up a poll and asking all your |
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78:51 | , for example, hey, I'm this person. Should I break up |
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78:55 | them? And all 4000 of your friends, right? Because every one |
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78:58 | those followers are friends are gonna give their really honest opinion about whether or |
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79:03 | you should break up or stay And at the end of the |
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79:07 | you're going to look at that poll you're going to make a decision based |
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79:09 | what they tell you. You're gonna up all the pluses and you're gonna |
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79:13 | up all the minuses. And that's essence what the next type of a |
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79:17 | is. It's called a grand post potential. The GPS P, the |
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79:22 | P is the sum of those EP and the IP SPS and excitatory and |
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79:27 | inhibitory post synaptic potentials. Now they have varying degrees of magnitude. So |
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79:32 | are going to be really, really . Some are gonna be really |
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79:34 | both excitatory as well as inhibitory. in the end, you're going to |
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79:38 | the membrane potential to some degree. it's the sum of those potentials that |
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79:45 | that tell the cell what it should next. And so when we're looking |
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79:50 | the cell, this is where we're to be focusing and saying, |
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79:54 | what is that GPS P that is result of stimulation here? Is it |
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79:58 | excited or is the cell being told to fire? And if the cell |
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80:02 | being excited, then it's going to its own signal to talk to the |
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80:06 | cell. So the process that we're to go through to do these are |
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80:12 | of summation. And when we come on Thursday, this is where we're |
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80:16 | to start, we're going to look the different types of GP SPS, |
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80:19 | we produce these GP SPS and ultimately to produce the action potential. All |
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80:25 | . So you guys, I will you on uh Thursday. Hopefully, |
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80:30 | stuff made sense |
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