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00:04 So let me uh take a look the questions which you sent me

00:12 Thank you for that. So, I will just open my mail

00:25 OK. So, uh the f first question is from uh Bria.

00:31 she sent that in just this morning now. It says uh good

00:35 My question is for marine data, we only having the stoneley surface

00:42 marine data, only stoney surface So, uh remember that the uh

00:48 , the stoney waves um are uh along the interfaces between uh uh rock

00:56 and below. Uh And so, uh they are there or whether or

01:03 um uh uh there's water up And so uh uh this uh stolen

01:11 travels along uh the uh the surface those two uh uh uh layers in

01:19 subsurface. But, you know, don't have any receivers there. All

01:23 receivers are up at the top of ocean or maybe on the ocean

01:28 Uh And so we normally don't receive uh stony waves. They are propagating

01:35 uh but uh they uh the decay uh the amplitude decays uh away from

01:42 boundary. So normally we don't see on our surface uh receivers, she

01:49 on and for rail waves, what it mean physically that has a curl

01:55 and a divergent free component? Is like having part of the P and

02:00 wave movement? Yes, that's what means. It means that as the

02:05 is traveling along it uh does some and it so does some diverging.

02:12 a complicated motion much more complicated than a P wave or a sheer

02:19 Uh And uh uh that's exactly what means. Uh It's neither a P

02:24 nor a sheer wave, neither curl nor divergence free, but some of

02:29 . And uh it's traveling along the boundary. And because we have

02:35 receivers on that boundary, we receive lot of uh of railways. Um

02:41 kind of too bad because mostly we're interested in the railway wires.

02:45 Utah is interested in them, but of us are not, mostly we

02:49 to get rid of them. And uh too bad, they are the

02:53 amplitudes on our uh receivers, land . And uh so that's why uh

03:00 need to do special processing, special , uh many sorts of techniques to

03:05 rid of those. And we went those, those are uh uh uh

03:10 techniques involving the sources and techniques involving receivers and techniques involving processing of all

03:17 things. And I didn't get I didn't actually do all of them.

03:21 , I did not do all of . Uh uh And so,

03:25 I mean, I did not do of the ways we suppress these uh

03:33 waves. Um That's a topic for Professor Zhou to explain. And so

03:41 I'm, all I was doing is you how these things propagate.

03:47 I actually didn't show you how uh uh started, remember as we did

03:51 , as we did those uh derivation the railing wave velocity, we didn't

03:57 a source. And in those we just said, suppose there's a

04:01 somewhere. We don't know about it from the source. This is what's

04:05 happen and away from the source, had uh uh these waves propagating in

04:11 complicated way that we spent uh uh sometime yesterday figuring it out.

04:19 um uh question that uh uh here you asked, is it like having

04:25 of the P and sw the The short answer is yes.

04:30 Next question is from uh uh li she says uh slide 45 slide 44

04:42 slide 44 and the light waves The, so let's, let's go

04:52 to that. And, and so I wanna do is bring up that

05:13 44. Yeah. Shop 544. I don't think you can see this

05:37 . I understand. Ma let let me share this. OK.

05:59 I think I'm uh sharing that screen , you see it now. That's

06:17 . Oh Yeah, that's right. , um so can people see this

06:48 ? Uh um Yeah. Uh So, yeah, I have not

06:56 . So let me present. I'm OK, Michelle uh got some.

07:19 . So um uh Carlos can you this? Can you see that?

07:31 . So, uh this is a where we first introduced uh uh the

07:36 of uh ray theory. So uh uh just a second, let me

07:42 a, a pointer, here's my . And so uh uh we are

07:53 to uh to, I imagine uh we're gonna imagine in our minds,

07:58 ? The, the wave is not this, the, the wave doesn't

08:02 know anything about um the ray the, the wave is following the

08:07 equation. But we can um think it uh using ray theory. It's

08:14 theory and uh uh it's a good for us to uh understand what the

08:20 is doing. And so, uh is the essential approximation here. Uh

08:25 , the pressure in the wave uh , in, in the wave is

08:29 be approximated as uh a wavelet uh which is arriving at um uh an

08:36 time, t think, think of uniform medium, uniform medium. And

08:41 wave wavelet is arriving and it has shape, you know what the shape

08:46 a wave looks like. And that is arriving at a time, uh

08:52 T and it has an amplitude A so this a is a function of

08:58 far it's traveled. And the travel is a function of how far it's

09:03 . And we want to apply this in the high, frequently high frequency

09:10 . That is, we wanna consider case where the wavel varies rapidly.

09:15 can see that with variation on your uh on your workstation. And that's

09:20 we mean by rapid and that wave moves slowly through the medium.

09:27 and the, the time very slowly as it moves the amplitude very

09:32 just for example, uh a uniform uh as the wave is going through

09:37 medium, it it's doing geometrical spreading so it's getting smaller amplitude, but

09:45 happening slowly and steadily. But inside the wave, the wavel is oscillating

09:51 and down rapidly. So, we this um uh these ideas in the

09:58 few slides to um uh derive the the ray theory equivalent of the uh

10:09 uh the wave equation. And we that the icon equation. And it's

10:15 AAA simpler uh uh uh it's AAA of the assumptions that you see

10:23 arrival time is uh the wave is slowly through the medium as it

10:29 it uh rapidly wiggles up and down it slowly uh uh loses amplitude.

10:38 um we uh we derived uh the equation. It's the ray theory equivalent

10:48 the wave equation. And uh then use that to um to understand that

10:59 derive actually some um uh some important like we, we derive Snell's

11:06 And so we understood that uh to Snell's law, we had to restrict

11:12 to uh one dimensional media, flat layers. So, uh you can

11:17 all that now, um uh Lee , does that answer your question?

11:26 , your voice is very soft. , I, why is it called

11:32 high frequency limit? Well, because gonna assume that this uh uh uh

11:38 , well, let's go, let's forward in a couple of slides.

11:41 then you'll see uh uh uh right . For example, uh we are

11:49 to assume that at high frequency this is zero. Why is it because

11:55 gradient uh is a small number uh the amplitude is varying slowly. So

12:01 gradient is a small number. So gonna neglect this term. That's what

12:05 mean by the high frequency limit. Laplace in of the amplitude is even

12:11 . So we're gonna neglect this at two terms at a high frequency.

12:17 that leaves only with this term. uh uh uh so here is then

12:23 wave equation for, for W and looks like a wave ation, doesn't

12:29 ? So there's more uh uh development , of ray theory and then there's

12:34 complications. So we skipped over because think you don't, you don't wanna

12:39 all those complications although you may be to, uh, uh, look

12:45 them after class and I can, , I, uh, the reason

12:49 put them in this course is because is probably the only time you'll ever

12:54 them. And if you ever uh, uh, where does ray

12:58 come from? Well, you can go back to these notes,

13:02 and also you can go back to uh on the textbook by Sheriff and

13:06 Dark. And uh there you'll see more discussion of great theory and you

13:13 , uh uh right there is, actually is a good a accounting

13:20 of how we think about race or we think about W I I think

13:27 for most of us understanding the wave has a differential equation, I think

13:35 um it's hard for most of us me and I think including you,

13:40 I think that most of us can of understand uh great theory. So

13:44 we, we understand is that uh E equation is gonna govern the uh

13:51 the variation of the wavelength, not the data, that's the

13:57 So this doesn't describe the data gonna up a couple of slides. So

14:04 is the data here. And uh what, what we just uh I

14:10 derived uh a couple slides for it the wave equation for the wavelength and

14:18 arriving and you know, it's wiggling through the medium. And uh uh

14:23 think we can all understand that and arriving with the travel time uppercase T

14:31 what is uh what's the equation for ? T, what's the equation for

14:37 uh for the arrival time? that's the icon equation which uh derived

14:43 five slides after this. So, I think that's all I wanna say

14:49 uh uh about uh great theory, frequency approximation. Yeah. Second.

15:09 let me go back to uh the question. So, and here the

15:17 . So uh I'm looking at the email, I don't think you all

15:23 see this. Next question is what the difference between uniform homogeneous and isotopic

15:31 or mathematically? Hm. OK. I'm not sure how to answer that

15:42 . I know you understand what it to have. Uh uh oh

15:50 I know you know what it means have isotropic rocks physically. You know

15:56 you, you, you have a idea in your mind. What?

15:59 all it means for isotropic rock, velocity of sound is the same for

16:04 direct. Yeah. And the way think about that is just think about

16:08 sample you can hold in your hand sandstone. And so when you look

16:15 the sandstone, it looks like uh don't see any small scale structure in

16:21 sandstone except the granite. And if look closely say it again, so

16:32 it, it's isotropic but not OK. So, so now think

16:38 isotropic but not uniform. So think think of a of a of a

16:42 sample uh which uh has uh uh a layer of boundary and on the

16:48 side is another sandstone or think uh uh so think of on the very

16:55 scale, think uh it, it's uniform on a small scale because on

16:59 small scale, you have grains and , right? So uh all uh

17:05 the the issue of the a layer and the science and the other sandstone

17:10 the other side, that is something uh cook would have uh uh would

17:15 understood. OK. For him, would be like a a piece of

17:19 of copper welded to a piece of iron, right? So uh

17:25 would understand that kind of in homogeneity it's peace wise homogeneous. So on

17:32 side of the boundary, it's On the other side, it's

17:35 but it's different. Yeah, Hook have understood that. Uh but he

17:40 not have understood uh uh our applying theory to a rock with on the

17:46 scale, it's got both grains and right. On the small scale,

17:51 heterogeneous everywhere you look. And furthermore , inside the uh uh the

17:57 it's got atoms right. Uh uh inside the atoms, it's got uh

18:02 quarks. Uh it's got uh uh and electrons, right. So all

18:08 small scale variation is something that book not have understood or even thought

18:14 So we are gonna talk about variation the brain scale later in this

18:21 But for right now, we're assuming is homogeneous. So you can think

18:25 like a glass or you can think copper. That's, that's the kind

18:30 stuff we're talking about right now. rocks. OK. Now, uh

18:36 how about uh uh uh how about uniform but an isotropic? Well,

18:45 think of a crystal. So uh uh I don't have a crystal with

18:50 , but you have seen a, you came to class this morning in

18:54 , you walk past the display case look at that display case when you

19:00 uh uh at the break and you see crystals which have crystal shapes to

19:05 . So some are cubic, some uh you know, all sorts of

19:08 shapes and colors and everything. And uh so they look uniform, don't

19:14 ? Uh crystal think of a crystal quart, a uniform crystal quart.

19:19 that crystal quart is an isotropic waves in different directions uh through that quartz

19:29 , high frequency waves, think of high frequency waves in the laboratory.

19:35 um uh why is that? It's the crystal has small scale structure which

19:42 can't see it has a AAA crystal structure of the atoms inside the

19:49 And that's what's responsible for the external of the quartz, that's what's responsible

19:55 the shiny faces on the crystal. so you can be sure that those

20:00 atomic arrangements which make the shiny they also make for anisotropic wave propagation

20:08 the crystal port. OK. that's not an important uh form of

20:15 isotopy for us because normally we are at uh uh low frequency wave seismically

20:23 sonically, we're looking at waves which are much longer wavelength than a quartz

20:31 . So we're gonna be thinking about kinds of anisotropy. Uh right

20:35 you can see immediately there's an anisotropy though it's homogeneous, I mean it

20:40 homogeneous. But you know that on tiny tiny scale, it's in

20:46 And moreover with the preferred orientation, atoms inside the crystal inside the quartz

20:52 , they have uh uh they uh up in a atomic cells uh uh

20:59 have AAA preferred orientation oo of the atoms oo of the atomic cells inside

21:08 , the quartz. And that's responsible the shiny phases on the outside.

21:13 . Um Yeah. So is, that answer your question? OK.

21:18 go on to the next question. should we use the scalar or

21:23 Uh uh For example, we have scalar reciprocity theorem and the vector occupy

21:31 uh does the Hem Holtz equation apply both situations? OK. So,

21:37 um uh so number one, the are traveling as vector waves. So

21:45 should. So the waves are obeying vector wave equation. However, as

21:51 approximation, we can regard T waves um uh obeying the uh the scalar

22:00 equation. Uh uh And that works uh uh for, for, for

22:07 , for imagery, for imaging our , we often as uh assume the

22:13 wave equation or why is that? because it's easier to deal inside the

22:18 with the scalers than with vectors. . So the, the uh the

22:26 waves obey the scale of reciprocity which is a special case of the

22:33 reciprocity. Of course, they also the vector reciprocity. The uh but

22:38 sheer waves and converted waves in more ways do not uh obey the scale

22:44 reciprocity theorem, but they do obey vector presupposing the. Now next question

22:51 , does he Maltz equation apply? like in both situations? The answer

22:58 yes, the Healt equation applies. uh in all cases, you can

23:05 , you can always um divide any , uh feel uh any displacement which

23:14 with uh uh time and space. can always uh uh um divide that

23:23 a Pearl Free Park and a divergence Park. However, however, we

23:28 uh what we learned and you we, we didn't learn, but

23:36 uh we will learn when we get anisotropy. If the medium is

23:41 those two parts don't contain just P and sheer waves. We have P

23:49 and sheer waves in both parts if an isotropic, but you don't know

23:54 yet because so far we're just dealing isotropy. But uh um the equation

23:59 a very good equation and you can do that separation. But if the

24:05 is an isotopic, then it, doesn't lead to the separation of PNS

24:12 and you will find that out uh to me. And uh so let

24:27 uh so the next question is, explain further about finding the interval velocity

24:34 dick's differentiation. OK. Um So cost um uh pull up that slide

24:48 89 in lecture four. Am I ? Ok. Well, so we

24:53 lecture four here. So uh It back four slide 89. I

25:17 my mouth. Cheers. Well, slide 89 according to me, but

25:40 doesn't look like it's the slide that want. What? 90? It

25:51 look like the one you want. . Is this the one? Oh

26:20 can't see. I, I think is the one. OK.

26:25 So let me, let me Um um No, no,

26:34 And you sir? No, Uh Let's see which one? Uh

27:17 51. So let me um present one uh three. Mm Make sure

27:34 least to OK. Let me just over night. OK. Uh uh

27:46 So uh uh Carlos can you see slide uh uh about this differentiation?

27:56 , perfect. OK. So let um animate it a couple times.

28:05 . So I think this is a uh Lily you were asking about.

28:10 . So uh uh what we have at the bottom is we have uh

28:15 expression for the, the, the velocity of the nth layer.

28:20 this is the velocity of the layer above the uh uh the reflection

28:27 OK. And what, what do have in here? We have uh

28:31 the arm is velocity uh coming from uh uh reflection just below. Sorry

28:38 that. Let me go back. is the arm o and let me

28:42 my uh order. OK. So is the R MS velocity from the

28:48 uh uh reflection just below that And here is the arm rest velocity

28:53 the uh uh uh reflection just above layer, top of the layer bottom

28:58 the layer. This is the travel to the bottom of the layer.

29:02 is the travel time to uh the of the layer. And uh then

29:08 dividing by uh by, yeah, dividing by the travel time in,

29:18 the light. So these are so, so, so uh this

29:24 time in the layer is the difference the travel time to the bottom and

29:28 travel time to the top. So on, on the uh on the

29:33 are uh things that you can observe you uh make the assumption that the

29:41 that the move out velocity which you determine on your workstation is the same

29:50 the R MS velocity. So you can determine that move out velocity

29:54 all the major reflections using your workstation . And so here's uh and if

30:01 take that move out velocity and regard as an R MS velocity, then

30:06 know this one and you know this , you know everything here. And

30:09 you thereby deduce the interval velocity in uh the nth layer. And you

30:17 do that, of course, for , any of the layers. And

30:20 so uh that's what we mean by differentiation. Why is it called

30:27 Well, because we have uh the of two quantities here on the

30:31 Uh It's a small difference and then a, a small uh time delay

30:36 uh down here. So it's, like a derivative. It's the ratio

30:41 two small numbers. And you can that uh there might be some uncertainty

30:49 with determining the velocity in that but that's the way we do it

30:54 uh all the time either using um um the methods which I've shown here

31:02 involving uh uh um the move out hyperbolic move out equation that uh derived

31:09 dix in 1955 or uh uh co these days. Uh We uh usually

31:18 more elaborate methods to determine um uh velocities and we call them migration

31:29 And we uh we have very elaborate algorithms to do that. Professor Zhou

31:37 be talking about that uh for you . But it all comes down to

31:42 same idea that, that those are more elaborate implementations of this basic

31:48 So uh this is what we call differentiation. Now, the next part

31:53 Lily's question is uh what happens when move out velocity is not equal to

32:00 R MS velocity. Here, here we're uh we're uh we're gonna

32:06 this velocity assuming that we have the MS velocity at the bottom of the

32:12 and at the top of the Uh But what if that uh uh

32:17 that, that move out velocity, two move out velocities, which we

32:22 in a workstation. What happens happens it's not really the R MS

32:26 Well, in that case, we an error here and that's the wrong

32:33 . OK. So let me see . The next slide I think is

32:38 , so if we have the wrong , then we're gonna get the wrong

32:43 . You know, because we find depth by adding up all these uh

32:47 uh uh layer depths which you can right here. And if these

32:52 if these interval velocities are wrong, we're gonna get the wrong depth.

32:58 that's a very common thing. It's common that you find the inner velocity

33:05 your best techniques on your workstation and calculate the depths and it turns out

33:11 be wrong when you drill the sometimes it's only a little bit

33:18 Sometimes it's a lot wrong. And uh uh you should be prepared for

33:25 . And uh and so there, two sources of that kind of uh

33:31 to death miss time one is possibly screwed up somewhere. Uh So,

33:38 in that case, um with a um uh uh training on the

33:45 with the help of your colleagues there the company, you can avoid making

33:50 kinds of blenders and you're still gonna uh the incorrect depth. And so

34:01 a case like that, and go to this life, uh in a

34:08 like that, the reason for the wrong depth is you have the wrong

34:14 . The reason you have the wrong is that not that you had these

34:19 wrong, you probably have the this uh pretty accurately and this time pretty

34:25 . And so you can get the of them. That's this interval time

34:28 here pretty accurately. The uh uh major source of error is really beyond

34:36 control because you were forced to assume the move out velocity that you measure

34:42 your workstation is in fact, the MS velocity. OK. So I

34:47 going to show you um uh oh gonna say that the, the,

34:55 , the main, the main uh why the move out velocity is not

35:03 to the R MS velocity is And so we're gonna learn about that

35:10 in the course and you will uh will see very early in lecture

35:15 uh how it can happen that an leads to wrong. Uh uh uh

35:22 leads to the fact that the R velocity or excuse me, the animal

35:26 that you measure is not equal to R MS velocity. And so that's

35:31 the interval velocity that you measured are . And also you will find uh

35:36 recipe for dealing with that. In 10, you will not be happy

35:42 that recipe, but I'm gonna, telling you that's the best that we

35:46 do. I it, it's gonna drilling holes and drilling holes are

35:53 And so you're gonna make these mistakes you drill the hole. Uh And

36:01 you might as well be uh resigned it. And furthermore, you need

36:07 uh prepare your boss, you, need to prepare the expectation of the

36:13 that when we drill the hole, we're not gonna find that reservoir at

36:18 depth that we thought it was gonna . It's either either gonna be a

36:23 a shallower or deeper and it's you can say it's not our

36:29 Uh uh In order to get the depth, we have to know the

36:36 uh in advance and not easy to uh in fact, we, we

36:43 know it until after we drill the . So the boss has to be

36:47 for making mistakes. Now, uh uh uh uh after you've uh

36:52 with this course and after you've uh uh gotten some more experience, you

36:57 , you will be able to minimize error. Um But you never will

37:03 able to avoid the error completely. . So, uh, let me

37:10 stop sharing this and go back to the email. And next question is

37:22 uh this is a really good Uh It, it's about converted

37:27 Remember that? Remember that? Um remember that cartoon? I think I

37:35 wanna ask you to remember. I I wanna bring up that cartoon

37:39 Hold on. So let's see OK. Stop in this slide

38:27 Yeah, this is what I wanna and then I wanna start this presentation

38:35 I want to uh I think uh not sharing with you yet,

38:46 So, um uh I don't uh don't have here uh Utah. I

38:53 have the, oh, what did do since, since this one

39:02 OK. Sure. Um On this was still here. OK.

39:19 . Mm OK. Uh uh Can see this picture that we, that

39:23 uh showed yesterday? So, uh uh what Lily is asking is uh

39:29 uh in this picture here. let me get a pointer. I

39:37 here. OK. Here we have incoming uh P wave and an outgoing

39:42 wave reflected and transmitted. And then also have SV waves converted and uh

39:48 reflection and transmission but no sh So she's asking uh uh uh can

39:55 have sh wave? Well, look here closely at the boundary as

40:00 P wave was coming in. it's jiggling the boundary in this direction

40:06 the direction of the P wave. that means it has a vertical component

40:10 a horizontal component to the displacement as P wave hits the boundary. So

40:17 means the boundary is moving back and this way in the plane of the

40:22 , right? And so that's why SV wave is, is created because

40:27 , the motion is in the plane the figure. Now, for an

40:32 wave that displacement is perpendicular to the to the um to the figure.

40:39 you see where my cursor is imagine uh uh the uh it uh um

40:46 uh there, there's no displacement in the uh uh into the screen and

40:53 of the screen, that's what we need to create a stage,

40:57 OK. You can see it's not happen here except suppose that uh uh

41:07 one or both of these media, or lower media. I suppose it's

41:11 isotropic. Yeah, if it's an , then there's P wave coming in

41:19 , in the plane still. But it hits this boundary it is gonna

41:24 some displacement out of the screen because the anisotropy. So, in that

41:31 , you're gonna get uh six ways out one P wave up and two

41:36 waves up an SV wave and an wave and three and uh uh uh

41:45 uh three waves going down, uh P wave and two shear wave.

41:51 furthermore, I can tell you, didn't tell you this before but uh

41:55 this is new information, those two waves going up. Let's think of

42:01 two shes going up and SV wave you see here and sh wave,

42:05 you don't see because this diagram is isotropic bodies but and anisotropic fighters is

42:12 gonna be an upcoming sh wave and what it's traveling at a different

42:18 So it's gonna have a different So you can see how things get

42:24 lot more complicated because in an isotopy media, there are two different sheer

42:34 traveling with different velocities. Wow, different polarization. That that's what we

42:40 when we say SV and SH uh we're describing the polarization. And

42:46 I'm here to tell you that neither those two sheer wave polarization are gonna

42:53 be lying in this planet. This uh uh here, this one lies

42:57 the plant, there's the polarization vector there. But if it's, if

43:02 uh if the medium is anisotropic, polarization factor might be sticking out of

43:08 plane a bit and the sh wave be sticking out of the plane a

43:13 . Lots of complications. So that's most courses like uh this of,

43:23 uh of introductory uh waves and rays talk about anisotropy at all because the

43:32 is a lot more complicated. That's the reason why we are concentrating on

43:39 only for the first nine lectures. . So in the 10th lecture,

43:45 gonna take up just a little bit the complications that come from an anisotropic

43:52 . And of course, why are doing this? Of course, it's

43:55 the rocks in the subs services are fact anisotropic, almost all of

44:00 So what we're learning now is uh an approximation uh where uh oh uh

44:12 Real Earth is gonna be different from picture here. And I will actually

44:16 you, I will tell you an story from my own experience. Uh

44:22 was the leader inside Amao of developing anisotropic ideas starting in 1980 maybe before

44:31 of you were born. And we that a secret inside Amao for six

44:37 . It was remarkable that we kept a secret because there's so many ways

44:42 secrets to leak out of companies. You know, people leave the

44:47 things like that and when they they take the secrets with them.

44:51 we've managed to keep that secret for long years. During that time,

44:57 was sitting in an audience at the listening to um o other people's

45:05 And there was a smart guy from giving a presentation about uh convert race

45:13 he had some field uh data from uh the office in uh uh Cono

45:21 uh uh in those days, uh was before the merger with Phillips and

45:26 international headquarters was in a small town uh Oklahoma. That's about, I

45:32 know, 300 miles north of where sitting here in Houston. He was

45:38 smart guy and he was uh giving talk about converted waves on land,

45:44 was uh uh uh an unusual topic those days. And he had uh

45:50 had flatline geometry in the subsurface and laid out a two D experiment pretty

45:56 like uh and he was analyzing it much in these terms and it was

46:01 pretty conventional, pretty boring. And just when I was about to doze

46:07 , he said, however, I to show you something here which I

46:13 understand. And um and I'm hoping can help me understand. So then

46:20 showed the data, uh his data three component geophones because that's what he

46:26 available times, three component geophones and had a vertical vibrator making a source

46:32 he had uh three component geo So of course, he had one

46:36 them, one of the horizontal components lined up with the figure just like

46:41 showed here. And that's he, said, of course, we were

46:46 to get zero data on the cross phone. He said, but look

46:51 the data and he showed data was strong, strong uh arrivals from the

46:58 line GEO phone. In this case , exactly what le le was asking

47:06 . He said uh uh uh we expecting zero. But look,

47:10 we got strong arrivals. Can you me understand that? And, and

47:15 was sitting in the audience and I exactly the explanation um for that it

47:21 uh anisotropy, but in those anisotropy was a big amical secret.

47:27 I happened to be sitting next to experts in anisotropy from Shell. And

47:37 that time, maybe still today, was regarded as the uh as the

47:43 advanced technically advanced company in the And these guys were high quality experts

47:51 an isotropy from uh uh from And they were uh uh they were

47:58 uh giggling in the dark. We sitting there uh uh several back in

48:05 dark and they were nudging each other uh in the ribs with their elbows

48:09 giggling and pointing to the speaker from . And they were saying that idiot

48:14 Arco does not know that that isn't possible that P waves do not couple

48:20 SS H waves. And they were exactly in these terms. Now,

48:25 were experts in anisotropy but in those , the only anisotropy that guys like

48:31 knew about was anisotropy uh uh from un fractured shales. So imagine that

48:39 is a sandstone up here. Incoming P wave is a sandstone down here

48:44 a shale un fractured. But it's uh uh uh on the small

48:50 it's got clay, clay platelets which aligned to be flat, preferentially aligned

48:56 be flat. So the shale is with different velocities for uh for all

49:02 uh different angles of uh propagation down . But they're all the same uh

49:08 uh for all hazas, it's the uh whether this figure is oriented east

49:15 or north south or uh no matter this uh figure is oriented in the

49:21 directions, it's all the same for fractured sales. That's what these guys

49:27 about. And it turns out that that special case of uh of uh

49:33 this picture is a good one. is no coupling from P to sh

49:40 un fractured shells block. It turns that almost all scales are fractured.

49:46 have asom methyl anisotropy as well as simple anisotropy that these guys knew

49:53 In those days, we call that simple anisotropy. We call it now

49:58 anisotropy because it has a polar All uh all directions about the vertical

50:05 axis are the same from that uh that kind of anisotropy. The old

50:12 name for that kind of anisotropy is , transverse isotropy. That's a bad

50:18 because in the name of a type anisotropy is the word isotropy. But

50:24 the old fashioned name and the modern is vertical polar anisotropy because it has

50:30 pole of symmetry. So those guys um uh from shell were amused and

50:37 , that idiot doesn't know that that possible. But you know, he

50:41 showing them the data right there in of their eyes and there was a

50:46 discussion in the audience. No, could understand how, what, what

50:50 causing that. And these guys were fun of the speaker. That idiot

50:55 know that's not possible. But he showing them the data. What they

51:00 have done was they should have said oh look at that data, that

51:05 is not possible according to our maybe we should think about making

51:12 making less restrictive assumption. Maybe we learn from listening to this smart guy

51:18 Arcot showing us his data, but didn't do that. They missed,

51:23 missed their chance. They uh they fun of the speaker giggling in the

51:29 and I was sitting next to them to all this and I understood all

51:33 that was going on, but I my mouth shut because it was an

51:37 micro secret. So it was a of years later when we explained to

51:42 community, what happens when you have rocks with uh aimy anisotropy, for

51:49 , fractured chairs and lecture 10. will, we will be able to

51:54 you some of that. Ok. let me stop. May I ask

52:01 a question about the what you just share? So what was the reason

52:07 you ended up sharing that secret? , well, the secret leaked

52:15 Yeah. So that, uh that's good question. OK. So here

52:20 are Brita working for slumber. So , I'm gonna tell you uh uh

52:25 some more adventures from my life. it was a year or two later

52:31 Amao sent me to a course just this continuing education course for people who

52:37 , who had jobs in the And this course was being taught by

52:41 professor from Stanford and it was about . And so Amao said,

52:47 you, you know about anti me , but just go and listen and

52:51 what other people are saying. So went and uh I forgot where the

52:55 was. It was somewhere in uh in California I think, forgot where

53:01 where it was. And so uh it was a course being taught a

53:06 long course in an isotropy, being by this professor from Stanford. And

53:13 was talking all about polar anti. the unraced, shall he? He

53:18 know anything about realistic anti I kept mouth shut. I was just there

53:23 a list. So during the coffee . Um uh Another course participant from

53:32 came up to me and he have you heard about a guy named

53:36 ? And so cramping was um smart working in Scotland. And he knew

53:45 azimuthal anisotropy, but he knew about only in the context of earthquakes.

53:53 . So he had looked at a of earthquake data and he had seen

53:58 for propagation uh from the earth earthquake the receivers um uh indicating as in

54:07 an isotropy. And he had, know, he was pretty active.

54:11 , he gave a lot of talks uh to academic audiences, you

54:17 uh uh uh the, the major for academic geophysicists is called the American

54:26 Union. And it's a worldwide uh , it's a big society. Uh

54:32 and they're interested in things like earthquakes they're interested in the interior constitution of

54:37 earth and things like that. And why he was giving his lectures and

54:43 in our business was paying attention. this guy at Exxon uh from Exxon

54:49 up to me in the class and says, have you heard about this

54:51 cramping? And so I said, , yeah, I've heard about

54:56 you know, uh uh uh Uh uh and now I've heard about

55:01 . And so the Exxon guy well, we have hired him as

55:05 consultant and we've done some experiments um using his advice and uh you

55:14 what everything he says about azimuthal anisotropy true. Wow. So immediately I

55:23 that it had here a, a oil company listening to cramp, the

55:30 had spilled out. So, uh I pretended it was no big

55:36 I just ref refilled my coffee cup uh said, well, that's

55:40 And then we, we went back the classroom, but shortly after

55:45 while this, while the professor was , I snuck out the back and

55:50 went to a uh a telephone, know what a telephone is. Uh

55:54 you put in a quarter and it's a, a AAA wire coming out

55:58 back of the telephone and you put your quarter and you can make a

56:02 call anywhere in the, in the . Uh uh uh And uh uh

56:09 I, I called back to Tulsa I said our secret is out Exxon

56:14 listening to tramping. So uh uh immediately then Amico authorizes all of us

56:24 uh uh uh go public with our . And it turned out that the

56:28 next week was the deadline for the of abstracts for the SEG convention in

56:36 fall. It was uh like three later. And so by the time

56:40 got back to uh uh Tulsa, , I guess I came back on

56:46 and on Monday, uh we had uh pulled out from our doors,

56:51 uh uh manuscripts already prepared and waiting this moment and I hand carried them

56:57 the SCG uh office uh there in and I uh uh I hand them

57:04 the receptionist and uh with a little from Amaco management said, we think

57:09 is a major new development, uh deserves a special technical session at the

57:14 and chief. So the receptionist at SCG, of course, she doesn't

57:19 anything about Jewish. She accepted these she passed them on to the technical

57:26 for the upcoming convention. He was for uh Western Chico uh before the

57:32 with Slumber. And so he looked this and he said, wow,

57:36 looks really interesting. We had five and my, I had, I

57:40 the lead author and then there were other paper. So this guy,

57:44 technical chairman says, wow, that's . Um I'm gonna send these out

57:49 review to my friend at Exxon, Levitt. Now you might know Levin's

57:55 , famous juice of the pre preceding um one of the best. And

58:02 he was, he got these uh abstract for review and he says,

58:06 , Amao is way ahead of us time. He calls up the technical

58:11 and he said, he says, you uh you gotta have a,

58:15 special technical session with a high profile uh for the uh to present

58:22 However, do you mind? is however, at Exxon, we've

58:27 working on similar things And would you uh uh if we put in some

58:33 papers in the special session, even the deadline has passed? So I

58:39 these to the FDG at 5 p.m. the deadline day to in order to

58:45 sharing the credit with anybody else. that plan was defeated by the fact

58:52 the technical chairman sent our papers for to Levin. And he said,

58:57 you mind if we put in a of Exxon papers? Um even though

59:01 deadline has passed and the technical chairman , sure, why not? So

59:06 had then seven papers in that actually eight papers, eight papers.

59:15 the uh there were the five technical five papers from Axon 25 from

59:21 two from Exxon and one from a at the School of Mines in

59:28 And that student was absolutely brilliant. had discovered on his own at the

59:34 of mines without having the resources of major oil company like Amaar. And

59:40 discovered most of the important ideas come , and on his own. And

59:47 there was the, these eight So uh uh uh comes the convention

59:53 three months later, you know, the, in the fall, September

59:57 . And it was in a very session. And afterwards, Levin came

60:01 to me and he said, uh know, I've been coming to uh

60:05 uh SGG meetings for 50 years. is the most exciting technical session I've

60:11 um uh attended at the seg it dynamite. I'll show you more about

60:17 on uh uh in lecture tent. me not to waste any more time

60:23 that time. Retelling these same story , that that was an exciting time

60:28 me. So we gave these papers uh um it turns out the Exxon

60:34 were wrong. They had been pushed their management into uh uh publishing before

60:40 quite understood their data. So those Exxon papers are wrong but the five

60:44 papers have withstood the test of time can look them up at now.

60:48 , it was the uh the seg of 1986 maybe before some of you

60:55 born. Yeah, you can, , you're all members refugee, you

61:00 , you can look those up. here comes Schlumberger into the uh into

61:08 uh story. This is for Brianna. So uh uh we,

61:14 gave these uh uh dynamite talks explaining about what happens uh when the rocks

61:21 as little anisotropy, which most of do because of the presence of uh

61:29 uh unequal subsurface stresses and because of presence of frac and fractures in the

61:37 , most rocks have aimy anti and explained that to everybody in 1986.

61:46 and, and uh uh well, uh we had a large audience,

61:53 got a lot of publicity in the were people from slumber shade. And

61:59 over the, the weekend, the weekend, there was an emergency meeting

62:04 uh uh uh uh one of the experts of Schlumberger and in Rich,

62:11 uh uh in, in those the uh uh uh a major research

62:17 for lumber who was in Ridgefield, just outside New York City.

62:23 they moved it some years ago to be close to Boston. But

62:27 uh in those days, it was to New York City and they assembled

62:31 best experts in borehole sonics and they a question to these experts. They

62:37 , can we creep into, can measure the effects of a methyl anisotropy

62:46 the world? Modifying what AMAO showed surfaces, beer. And so uh

62:57 the experts there symbol said, maybe. And so they spent the

63:02 year in a crash program of uh development and clever engineering. And uh

63:13 uh uh they required test data at uh uh uh test sites uh wherever

63:20 are and in, in a year so, they came back. Uh

63:24 reconvene and they said, yeah, answer to that question is yes,

63:29 , we can see this, these in the ball. And furthermore,

63:35 is a major new line of business us. It's Limer J and what

63:40 developed at that time was what was uh what's uh uh called then.

63:44 now uh Rost Diol Sonic tool. so uh uh uh they thought,

63:52 , here's a major new line of for us, let's corner the market

63:58 getting a patent on all this. they put in a patent application to

64:03 all that. So about, about month prior to that point in

64:11 I am a car in Tulsa. were sitting around uh at the lunch

64:17 in the company cafeteria and somebody could we do this in the

64:22 And somebody else said, sure, not? And somebody else said,

64:26 , is that patentable? And we , sure, why not? And

64:29 in an amazing short period of the amical lawyers drew up a patent

64:36 and we all signed it. You , the way this works is that

64:39 have an invention while you're working for company, you sign over your rights

64:43 the convention to the company and the pays for all of the costs associated

64:49 getting the patent and the inventors get 100 bucks. And they,

64:55 uh, they get a pat on back from their boss. Uh,

64:59 the company is looking to make major from the uh invention. Of

65:05 the employee gets a regular paycheck, normally the employee does not get rich

65:10 of uh the invention, but the might get rich, they pay the

65:16 to um drop to uh um uh the patent and uh you know,

65:21 acquire the patent. So, so went all. Uh our luncheon meeting

65:27 about a month before, um Schlumberger in their patent application to the American

65:38 office. Our amical lawyers operated with efficiency and we put in a,

65:46 uh an application also within that month it takes a long time for the

65:53 patent office to make any decisions. about a year later, we got

65:58 excited call from our friends at Schlumberger Sugarland and they said, we didn't

66:05 you guys had cross dipole sonic tool we're sitting up there in Tulsa,

66:12 ? And uh uh we said uh , what tool? We don't have

66:15 tool. We're an oil company, not an oilfield services company. And

66:20 said, well, you might not a tool but you do have a

66:23 . And here's what happened. Our reached the patent office about two days

66:31 the slumbers ain't application debt. And thinking about it a year, the

66:38 uh uh the examiner at the depart the patent office proved uh all the

66:45 in the uh Schlumberger uh application and , the the other examiner who was

66:54 at the Amaco uh application approved those . And then after everything was all

67:01 about ready to forget final approval, they got in touch with each

67:06 then they looked for what they call art and you know, uh you

67:13 invent something which has already been So, uh uh when these two

67:18 finally got together, after thinking about for a year, then they realized

67:23 the Amaco invention was basically the same the Slumber invention. And it had

67:29 by about two or three days. they rejected, in the end,

67:34 rejected all of the claims. They 90 out of 91 claims for uh

67:40 the Schlumberger application in favor of the invention, simply because we had beaten

67:49 to the patent novels by a, couple of days. So, uh

67:55 the patent office then uh notified Slumber there application had basically been denied.

68:03 so on the basis of the Amaco Art. So that's why they called

68:08 up. So, uh uh uh a day or so later, we

68:12 that our uh patent had all been . So they were sitting there with

68:17 opportunity they had, uh you it, it seemed like it was

68:21 unfair because they had done a lot clever theory and a lot of clever

68:25 and develop the tool and acquired data so on. Uh Whereas all we

68:29 was we had a, a casual around the lunch table. So

68:35 it, it seemed like it was , however, that's why patents exist

68:40 that uh uh they can protect the of the inventor while still making the

68:47 available to society at large. So way that works is that when you

68:53 a company that wants to implement an . And you have another company that

68:59 the invention has the rights. Then two companies negotiate and the company that

69:05 in second will pay royalties, pay fee to the company that was first

69:12 using that invention and it's only a percent. It's not a big deal

69:16 anybody. So, uh uh that's happened after some negotiation. Amako license

69:24 um I invention to uh Schlumberger and to Halliburton and uh uh all the

69:31 firms. Uh uh So they would the Amaco technology to make money for

69:37 , you know, on behalf of customers. And they would pay a

69:40 percent of their profits to Amaco every for 17 years that's now completed.

69:48 that that's all uh uh uh public now. But for 17 years,

69:53 got um uh payments uh of the of a million dollars a year from

70:00 um service companies. And of the, the service company made a

70:05 more money than that for themselves. But uh Arcot was of the order

70:10 a million dollars a year, of which, you know, II

70:13 received a zero. Ok. Uh I always had the um attitude that

70:20 of those uh payment to uh Amao , uh that uh uh was because

70:27 me and essentially, uh Amao uh um had my services for free,

70:37 because of all of the payments they getting from this, these patents were

70:44 more than my amical seller. uh that's kind of a liberating idea

70:49 you think that your efforts are uh money for the company much more than

70:54 paying you. You don't have to that they're doing you any favors by

70:59 uh paying you the salary. Uh making money for the company and I

71:04 that uh you folks also are, making money for your companies. Um

71:10 Even today. Well, so uh will talk more about cross dipole sonic

71:22 in lecture 10. Yeah, I all, all of that discussion came

71:28 just this simple question by Lee asking don't we have sh waves coming out

71:35 this kind of situation? And I tell you that was revolutionary in,

71:40 , in those days, everybody uh that you would not get any data

71:49 on a cross dipole achiever whether it's borehole or surface seismic or anything in

71:57 situation. Because everybody had in their pictures like this, which they have

72:04 in the textbooks with an isotropic body and an isotropic body below. And

72:11 this, the Real Earth is not that. The Real Earth is more

72:16 . So we're gonna talk about that later before we do that, we

72:21 to uh finish up with uh uh a number of other um um uh

72:28 . So, oh II, I actually I I need to do before

72:34 get to the lecture. I need um I need to look at the

72:41 from Carlos. OK. All, right. Oh, that's another great

72:48 . So Carlos shows a picture of converted wave uh data that I showed

72:53 before. Remember when um uh the offsets had uh a different move out

73:00 the negative offsets for a, for marine um ocean bottom seismic survey.

73:06 that was due to uh uh uh localized velocity anomalies in the subsurface,

73:14 were different for P than for S in particular, it was caused by

73:19 , I think, I think what call a gas cloud above the

73:24 Um And that was all in the North Sea. So what he asks

73:29 , is it common in s processing process negative offsets separately from positive

73:36 And uh so uh uh the answer le let's go into the, so

73:43 of our seismic data uh does not negative offsets. For example, if

73:49 do a marine uh acquisition, you've the source right behind the boat and

73:53 got this long streamer of uh of uh of receivers behind the

74:00 So we can call those all positive going from the front of the boat

74:05 the back. Uh However, on . Um Oh by the way,

74:10 if you have marine acquisition with different uh uh survey design, then I

74:17 said suppose there's two both. no, I suppose it's another shooting

74:22 off to the side. Uh, , uh, uh, uh,

74:26 could have a whole, uh, , uh, a variety of different

74:32 . Some of them are positive. are negative. But, uh,

74:36 , in the simplest case, marine have a single set of,

74:42 of, of, of receivers, , uh, a, an array

74:47 receivers maybe 10 kilometers long and maybe kilometer wide, several streamers in,

74:54 there. They're all behind the boat we'll call that positive offsets.

74:59 on land, you can do uh uh have anything, suppose you have

75:03 land uh uh or maybe uh uh , suppose you have on land um

75:12 receiver set up and it's easy to uh having um positive and negative offset

75:22 between the source and the receiver uh land. And so uh uh some

75:31 survey designs have that. But now know from the reciprocity theorem for P

75:39 , we're just doing P waves. know that the reciprocity theorem guarantees us

75:45 a negative offset is giving you gonna you the same data as a positive

75:50 . That's the scalar where the prostate . So normally we uh well,

75:57 don't uh oh no, normally we uh process positive and negative offsets separately

76:06 B waves. Well, here is here's another story from my personal

76:18 Oh, ok. But I did, did I tell you uh

76:34 earlier about making images from the data I showed, I showed you the

76:42 . Uh And I showed you the had different move out for positive offset

76:47 negative offset that I uh uh did show you any images from that?

76:57 Let's see here. Um Well, I got started. Um mhm I'll

77:04 you another story from my personal So we took that data and we

77:11 uh we figured out the reason why positive offsets had different move out than

77:16 negative offsets because they obeyed the vector there, not the scalar reciprocity

77:23 And then uh we figured out how image uh uh the reservoir, tried

77:30 the positive offsets differently than the negative . And we got good images for

77:36 first time of that um uh reservoir Amako. It's in the nor it's

77:45 the Norwegian North Sea. And uh it was uh when it was first

77:53 discovered, it was discovered, even the data was very poor. He

77:59 marine P wave data was very They drilled it anyway and they discovered

78:04 million barrel field. Good thing. then, and they worked at this

78:09 10 years or so before we finally converted wave data over that same

78:16 That's the data that I showed you , by the way that, that

78:21 field is called Valvo. It's a , famous field in our business now

78:28 uh we've learned so much from that . And one of the things we

78:32 is about uh uh a converted way acquisition and processing and imaging. So

78:42 uh about, after we had produced field for about 10 years, even

78:49 the images were very poor, we finally developed good images using converted

78:56 And everybody in uh uh Amao Norway very happy with that because they

79:02 they could see the seismic images of reservoir and they could I, they

79:07 develop it better. So these uh uh val field is a 5

79:15 barrel field, five, a 5 barrel field instead of a 1 billion

79:20 . Now, now that we can it better, we can see it's

79:23 5 billion barrel field of which we produced so far about 3 billion.

79:30 there's still 2 billion to go. of course, when BP bought

79:34 they bought that field as well. now BP has sold that field to

79:40 uh another company where BP is partners that company and uh they have

79:47 So yeah, but now, so uh Val Hall is officially owned by

79:52 other company. And uh so of , since I left BP, I

79:58 had no inside information, I got feeling but it was, it was

80:03 big moneymaker for Aero and then for and we made the first good images

80:09 it. So um in Norway, have a very interesting attitude towards company

80:18 . They uh oh and furthermore, , I gotta preface this story with

80:22 following uh in, in the United offshore in the United States, the

80:31 uh belongs to whoever uh uh finds and, and, and drills it

80:36 produces it. Uh So companies bid the right to uh uh explore and

80:44 in selected tracks offshore of the United . And so uh there might be

80:50 track uh uh uh uh several miles uh uh in uh the dimension

80:57 west, north, south and so . So, uh uh and the

81:01 government sells to the companies, they an auction and they sell for the

81:05 , the rights to any oil that be found there. And companies like

81:10 VP and Texaco, the companies bid those uh in a public auction and

81:19 uh makes the highest bid, um , they then own whatever oil is

81:27 . So then they have to go and uh uh drill oil and produce

81:30 and so on, but it's their , not in Norway, in

81:35 it's always, always Norwegian oil owned the Norwegian people. And so,

81:42 the Norwegian government uh has options where , they license the companies like a

81:50 , the right to explore on selected offshore Norway. But whatever oil they

81:57 still belongs to the people of Norway they're gonna pay the oil company to

82:04 it. But the oil belongs to people in Norway. So the Norwegian

82:12 has an interest that companies operating in waters should do that using the best

82:21 available. So they require the companies have uh uh bought, who ha

82:29 been granted licenses to produce Norwegian oil to share their technology with other companies

82:37 that everybody can be using the same technology. So there are no secrets

82:44 and uh if you operate in so that meant was that when,

82:50 we made these uh uh converted wave at Fo Hall, then there are

82:59 dot com. The Amao office in said, OK, so uh you're

83:04 present this in public at the next of the European Society and because it's

83:13 good technology, the Norwegian government will there listening and they'll say,

83:18 we need to give more licenses for for Norwegian oil and it need to

83:26 more licenses to Amaco because those guys so smart. So you see there's

83:31 competitive advantage for a company to be their secrets because of the Norwegian government

83:40 , very different from the American So we did that, we presented

83:45 stuff uh uh dynamite images of val and we won an award, you

83:55 , we, we buckle, we the best paper award, things like

83:59 . And uh so meanwhile, on exhibition floor at the convention that the

84:06 that year was um uh held in Switzerland for the European Society. It's

84:14 the Eage European Association of Geoscientists and . Eage. So the convention was

84:24 in Geneva, that's where we presented work. And of course, they

84:28 a big exhibition floor and uh the oil services, uh an oilfield

84:36 company which had done the acquisition for . They had booth on the

84:42 And so uh uh they had asked , uh do you mind? Uh

84:46 we acquired this data for you. your data. But do we have

84:50 permission to uh process it and make ourselves? So, you know,

84:58 , it was on their computer but would not touch, it would not

85:01 at it without our permission. So gave them that permission. And of

85:06 , we expected that uh because we friendly with them, they would uh

85:11 good work for us in the So they processed it and they had

85:15 young employee who was an expert and away imaging, a recent uh graduate

85:24 from the University of Tulsa by the . And uh uh uh he,

85:28 had been hired by this uh uh to uh bring his expertise and converted

85:37 way of imaging into that company. so he processed the data and he

85:41 results which were very different from And he presented those results not in

85:48 technical sessions in Geneva, but he those at the booth on the exhibition

85:55 to whoever was passing by. And uh was hap happy to say

86:02 in the, in, in the that th those guys at Amao don't

86:07 what they're doing here are the Those guys at a do not know

86:12 they're doing. So at a certain , my boss was standing at,

86:17 the edge of the crowd at the listening to our own contractor insult us

86:23 public is not, my boss was happy. Uh So immediately following the

86:29 in Geneva, that young man was to come to Amaco Research in Tulsa

86:36 explain himself. And I was summoned Houston. By that time, I

86:42 moved from the Tulsa Research Amical research Tulsa to amical exploration in Houston.

86:51 I was summoned to come up to and explain myself. And so there

86:55 front of the bosses, we realized this young man from the service company

87:02 not recognized the differences between negative offsets positive offsets. He, he,

87:08 surely saw it but he didn't think was important. And so he processed

87:16 um together and um uh it, know, when he did his phd

87:25 , he uh uh was probably doing with synthetic data which uh didn't have

87:31 peculiar subsurface features that uh we had , at Val Hall. So uh

87:36 and his um uh uh thesis at of Tulsa, he uh uh didn't

87:43 this kind of difference between positive and offsets. And so when he saw

87:47 at Val Hall, he didn't really . Take it seriously, we took

87:51 seriously process the positive offsets different from negative offsets. And uh he didn't

87:58 and so he, his uh uh were confused because his uh gathers were

88:04 flat. So that's why he got different images. So uh um long

88:11 short, uh uh uh uh it too long before this young man was

88:16 longer employed by this uh service So uh that's a good lesson for

88:22 young people that uh when you find pu puzzling data, uh you should

88:28 it out, figure out the reasons it uh with your colleagues uh uh

88:32 the bosses watching you get in a room, roll up your sleeves and

88:37 out why the data looks like And uh if there are differences with

88:43 company, you find a way to together, collegially behind closed doors and

88:50 out uh why uh uh uh we these differences. I've had several instances

88:56 my career where uh differences in images caused by the failure of assumptions that

89:08 had made successfully for many years. then we were applying those to new

89:13 of data and getting confusing results. um I think we'll have a chance

89:20 talk more about that um in uh 10. So that's uh that adventure

89:28 my own history was a direct uh uh answer to the question that uh

89:37 said, I'll read it again. what he said is it common in

89:41 processing to handle the negative offset separately the positives? And so uh uh

89:48 repeating the answer for, for P , uh uh it's not common to

89:52 , do that separately because we have scale of reciprocity theorem. But for

89:58 waves, you gotta do it. I think that for you uh students

90:04 for including UT I, uh uh have not seen much of any converted

90:10 data. Um So most of what day that you're looking at is P

90:17 . Uh But something you can safely the scale of reciprocity theorem for E

90:25 and not for converted waves and incidentally for Jewish air waves either.

90:30 uh we will uh uh uh talk about that um in lecture 10.

90:39 . So uh here we uh have , we spent an hour and a

90:44 talking about your questions and listening to re relive uh uh adventures from my

90:52 . Let's see. Uh I joined when I was 40. So I

90:57 older than uh than anybody else Uh So I had, I had

91:01 the previous part of my career uh the university in New York. And

91:07 , but I came into Amao ignorant a lot of things that you students

91:12 know students already know a lot more exploration, geophysics than I knew when

91:19 joined Amic. They hired me anyway two reasons because my father had worked

91:24 AM and he had a very good and they figured that, uh,

91:28 hire me to get another one like . And I'm sure they were

91:32 But, uh, well, that, that was their motivation,

91:37 sure. And then the other reason in those days when I joined em

91:41 1980 the industry was booming, And uh uh they were hiring anybody

91:49 knew how to spell geophysics and I how to spell it because I uh

91:54 uh academic career. But I didn't uh you know, the issues involved

91:59 academic geophysics are so different from the and as geo that I came into

92:06 um uh not knowing a lot of that you guys already know, but

92:12 did know some things which were that else knew. For example, I

92:17 about an isotropy and then I built career out of that. And uh

92:24 uh uh you, uh you students also have an opportunity to build a

92:32 if you know something that nobody else . I, I knew about anisotropy

92:37 I was able to see it in data. Some of the very first

92:42 that I ever saw inside Amer had indications of anisotropy in it.

92:51 and nobody else saw them. I it and cared about it. Thought

92:56 was interesting. They said uh they just uh sort of brushing it under

93:00 rock. Uh But uh so the lesson here is that when you

93:05 in the data, something which is peculiar and doesn't fit uh your

93:14 talk with your colleagues about that. does the data look like that?

93:20 then think about it and study and uh read the literature and read the

93:25 and think about it on. You find the reason the data looks like

93:30 is because the Real Earth doesn't obey simplifying assumptions that we've been doing.

93:41 we've talked a lot about how we're all this theory about waves and rays

93:46 the first seven lectures of this course making assumptions that uh are really

93:54 And so uh I'll, we will uh we will talk in the last

94:00 lectures, we'll talk, we'll talk more realistic, how, how to

94:04 more realistic assumptions and what uh effects have on the data. But you

94:11 be alert who features in the which are not explained by your uh

94:23 current understanding. And so, of , it might be that uh uh

94:28 a classical reason for that you find by talking to your colleagues who are

94:32 experienced, but then you might be like I was and stumble onto something

94:38 was magic. So I, I always regarded luck to be a big

94:44 of my success. And if you're , it will be a, a

94:48 of your success, but you gotta prepared for it. Uh When,

94:52 something, um magic comes along in of your eyes, you gotta be

94:58 for it. And what you're doing now in this course is you're learning

95:02 basics so that you will be prepared , for that. But don't make

95:07 mistake that those uh uh anti soy from Shell dead when they saw

95:13 which did not obey their understanding, made fun of the speaker instead of

95:21 that as motivation to improve their own . That's what they should have

95:27 They should have said, wow, data is impossible according to what we

95:31 . So, but it's data, uh uh uh so what we

95:36 we, we know that we made of uh of um uh assumptions in

95:43 our understanding. Uh uh Maybe some those assumptions were wrong. Let's think

95:49 that. That's what they should have . But they didn't, they,

95:52 wasted the opportunity. If that, an opportunity like that comes your

95:56 don't waste it. Try to understand the data looks like that. It

96:02 be a boring answer, you Uh It might be just uh so

96:06 , for example, uh here's an of a boring answer in the case

96:10 uh the Arco guy was showing the wave data, strong data on the

96:16 line component. Maybe the reason was the uh uh uh the instruments were

96:22 installed properly, maybe they weren't lined properly, right? If, if

96:27 line, if you think you have three components phone lined up properly and

96:32 not lined up properly, then uh uh you could have that kind of

96:36 or think about this, it could lined up properly with the arrow pointed

96:41 the proper direction, but maybe the is not the same in all

96:47 Maybe the coupling is not the My first job uh in this business

96:52 when I was an undergraduate student and was working on a field group in

96:57 Texas about 100 miles north of And my job was to install the

97:04 . So I would go out with bunch of earphones over my shoulder on

97:10 and I would come to the place a flag had been set by the

97:14 stamp. And I would drop one the um of the geophones on the

97:21 . And then I would take take it, pick it up,

97:24 the spike into the ground and then on it. Then I would look

97:29 at the um at the geophones now in the ground and it had a

97:36 um device on the top of it showed whether or not it was

97:43 it's called a leveling bubble. And would always see it wasn't quite

97:50 So why I would do that was kick it from the side to straighten

97:55 out, but it was vertical. . But you can see immediately as

98:01 was doing that, I was changing coupling uh because I was kicking it

98:06 the side, I was changing the . So the coupling wasn't the same

98:10 line as cross line. And so was if, if in those days

98:14 was vertical geophones only, you can the same principle is if you install

98:20 the month GEO phone with different coupling line and cross line, you could

98:25 the kind of data that um um Arco guy was showing and there's a

98:35 , but that's a B I would that is a boring solution. And

98:39 talked about that in the, in discussion there at uh in that technical

98:43 , people proposed that and the air guy said uh uh well, of

98:48 , uh I thought of that and went and checked and it was all

98:52 . Uh uh uh So uh that was uh an example of

98:58 of a classical explanation which could conceivably this peculiar data. And a guy

99:05 a smart guy. Uh And he checked out all those things and,

99:09 so when you find data, if doesn't fit your um understanding, then

99:16 , you should uh really uh work to understand what caused it and maybe

99:21 find it's a boring answer or maybe a, a magical answer that leads

99:26 a lot of uh of uh advances you uh once you answer it,

99:32 that that's, that's good advice. you find data that doesn't match your

99:42 , find out why. And probably answer is in your own mind rather

99:47 in the data itself. And so you uh learn in your mind how

99:53 eliminate the simplifying assum that you previously made. And maybe your colleague made

100:01 same simplifying assumption that um uh dig it, take it seriously and figure

100:09 why the data looks like that. for uh AO we had the uh

100:19 freedom, our bosses gave us the to sue our noses. And when

100:25 followed our noses and tried to figure why the day didn't look like

100:29 We came to an understanding that um eventually uh um uh uh had a

100:42 . Uh uh I understand it was a trillion dollars with a T,

100:47 trillion dollar secret we had discovered. um it revolves around this business of

101:03 anisotropine. You can imagine that if um subsurface has fractures in it,

101:11 uh the uh wave propagation is gonna a smoothly, an isotropic. And

101:17 if you observe that you can detect fractures, and so if you know

101:21 the fractures are, uh that can important uh as you're developing this

101:26 uh you want to uh develop the um you wanna develop the reservoir,

101:36 the uh the flow of fluids in subsurface caused by fractures, right.

101:43 The fluids can flow along the fractures lot more easily than across the

101:48 So we did uh we discovered the of ath an isotropy. And at

101:55 certain point, we convinced ourselves that was due to fracture. No,

101:59 else but fracturing. So we went uh Amma management with the proposition that

102:10 , that we should buy. Uh uh let me back up the place

102:16 we discovered this, that it was due the uh to fracture was here

102:23 Texas and, and uh uh not from here, actually, it was

102:28 50 miles from here in the, the north uh in the west northwest

102:34 . That's where we did the which convinced us that the Azlan surgery

102:40 we were seeing was due to So it was in a formation which

102:50 call the Austin chalk. So that's limestone formation which extends broadly thousands of

102:58 miles across central Texas and Louisiana, known as an oil producer for years

103:04 years only where there's fractured. And this uh understanding, we figured

103:11 we know how to um uh we how to find these fractures from surface

103:19 data. And furthermore, the same frame as uh uh the previous

103:25 I told. Furthermore, we understood Exxon was gonna be, we would

103:29 finding out very shortly how to find fractures in the Austin trunk in thousands

103:35 square miles and exits. So we to Amico Management that we should go

103:42 buy up the mineral rights to all uh those acres, thousands and thousands

103:48 acres in Texas. In those the uh we could, we could

103:54 the mineral rights that it would buy buy from the farmers. Uh I

104:02 in um uh in onshore us, oil beneath the farmer's land belongs to

104:08 farm. Normally the farmer doesn't know to uh uh buy it in and

104:15 it. So what he does is , he, he sells the

104:19 the mineral rights to oil companies number to explore it. And they,

104:23 , they pay uh a work, pay for the right to explore and

104:27 if they find something, the farmer a fraction. And uh uh so

104:34 mineral lights uh for exploration were selling Texas in those days for $25 an

104:42 . So we proposed to Aqua, should buy the mineral lights for the

104:47 Austin shop. Tens of thousands, of thousands of acres in Texas.

104:53 would have cost us about $100 So that's a lot of money.

104:58 um uh uh uh uh Amao could done it. So that proposal was

105:08 all the way up through many changes management all the way up to,

105:13 uh head office in Chicago where it um ok. What is it?

105:21 rejected and it was rejected for two . One of it, at the

105:25 , the price of oil was very . It was about $10 barrel and

105:31 management had no confidence that it would be any higher than $10 a

105:36 And furthermore, they didn't trust our . It was brand new technology that

105:40 else knew about. It should have considered an advantage, but it was

105:45 by amicable management, a risk So they rejected. So, um

105:52 if they had accepted it, they have gotten the rights to all of

105:57 Austin chalk and get this, they have gotten all the rights to the

106:01 Ford shale, which lies directly below Austin chalk. So these days,

106:07 Eagle Ford shale is the the most uh shale producing formation in the United

106:14 . And uh uh if you wanna mineral rights in the Eagle Ford shale

106:20 days, it costs about $20,000 per . So instead of $25 an

106:26 it's $20,000 an acre. We would gotten that for free if we had

106:31 gotten the a the mineral rights for Austin chalk that uh uh right E

106:36 extends all the way to the center the earth. So we would have

106:40 the eagle Ford shale for free. see that lost opportunity, I estimate

106:49 amao of the order of a trillion . If they had approved that the

106:58 and acquired those rights, then uh would have found a lot of oil

107:04 maybe Aero would have later bought BP of vice versa. But they,

107:10 missed that opportunity. Uh It was opportunity presented to AO management by the

107:16 technical staff, including me and enabled the management at Aero gave us the

107:24 to follow our noses and, and out what made the data look like

107:29 . Like you, if you're you can stumble. Uh you can

107:34 uh features in your data that nobody . You learn how to understand those

107:41 and maybe it'll be um uh the to a big business opportunity for your

107:50 . OK. Let's see what time is. Well, so I have

107:54 on here for um two hours answering questions and uh uh and telling you

108:02 . So uh now it's time to uh resume where we left off with

108:08 waves, but it's also a good for a break. So uh let

108:13 uh stop at this moment. We'll back in 10 minutes at uh uh

108:18 the top of the hour and we uh uh resume talking about love

108:24 OK? See you see you in 10 minutes. So folks,

108:33 hope, I hope everybody is back the break. Uh And I hope

108:37 can see this slide about uh uh love waves. This is where we

108:42 up um uh yesterday. No. I have a confirmation that you're seeing

108:51 slide now about Love Wink from uh ? Do you see it? Grace

109:06 , do you see it? I'm sure uh where I am, they

109:14 see it. Um but they're not yet. Ok. So I,

109:21 think maybe I'll wait for a few . Um But not confident for Sega

110:19 Carlos is gonna be here shortly. sure let's just wait for him.

110:33 you for sharing your stories. Those very interesting and motivating. Uh

110:40 uh so, uh uh uh I telling those stories. Uh Number one

110:46 I'm the hero of those stories. I also, they uh they're based

110:52 the technology. So uh they're inspired by your questions here and uh

111:00 uh they bear exactly on the science we're talking about here. So let's

111:08 here. I'm still waiting for. , Carlos. So when, when

111:26 think back on my career, I'm how lucky I was uh so many

111:31 in my career, but I was to uh seize the luck, sees

111:38 opportunity. And so that's what you are doing right now. You're uh

111:43 yourselves so that you can uh uh luck comes your way, you'll be

111:48 for it. Mm. Well, think I'm gonna give uh Carlos one

112:11 minute I got here. OK. And Carlos made it back.

112:29 uh so let's begin. Remember this where we left off. Um uh

112:37 , uh we, we went through analysis uh looking for love waves in

112:42 similar way that we look for uh waves. Well, we found railway

112:47 and we did a bunch of analysis we came up with a formula for

112:51 whaling rail rail wave velocity. So , we had uh expectations, the

112:59 program would work for love wave. we found at this point that uh

113:04 uh uh the, the government equation this one and it has no love

113:10 solution whatsoever. So uh then what did was uh said, OK,

113:16 try to make it more complicated subsurface with some in homogeneity there. So

113:22 got uh an upper layer and a layer, upper medium has a vs

113:27 , lower layer has the vs And we're still gonna look for a

113:31 wave which is traveling in the uh this direction and uh polarized out of

113:38 screen like this and the thickness of layer is is D you see it

113:43 uh here's uh uh X is uh at this boundary, not up

113:49 but there's a zero at this boundary downwards so that the earth surface is

113:56 , at the position X three at D. So now let's do the

114:02 sort of uh of analysis uh with more complicated model um and take um

114:12 from love. I'm sure that love the same thing that we just

114:17 did it about 100 years ago. to an answer. There are no

114:21 waves, but he persisted and he , OK, let me drop the

114:26 that the subsurface is uniform and see I find. So what he found

114:31 love wave. And that's one of reasons he's famous. So,

114:36 so in the upper medium, we this uh wave equation in the lower

114:40 , we have this wave equation. what we found previously for uniform

114:45 And the difference is that here we vs one and here we have vs

114:50 . And this is the displacement, love wave displacement in the lower

114:55 And here we have low wave displacement the upper media. And um so

115:03 then we, we're gonna match so we're gonna find, we know

115:07 we get plane wave solutions here. get plane wave solutions here and we're

115:11 match them at the boundary. So what are the boundary conditions?

115:16 on the surface it's like uh uh had before uh and at the lower

115:25 we're gonna have also uh uh not of stress and displacement. So

115:32 , we're gonna need a, uh gonna uh uh suma um solution and

115:38 it's gonna have three parameters. In assumption. And then we're gonna fix

115:43 uh three parameters using these three One two. OK. So that's

115:52 this is what we're gonna try in upper medium. We're gonna try assume

115:56 wave solutions. Now look, we here down going and upcoming waves.

116:02 what's the difference here? Let's look the phase factor here, we have

116:06 t same thing here, Omega T have minus HX one minus H one

116:13 one. That means that it's gonna going in the X one positive X

116:18 direction. This wave here is gonna going in this direction, same thing

116:24 this and going in this direction Now, this one has also uh

116:28 X three component to the displacement uh uh to the wave vector I I

116:36 say and it's uh the, the is only going to be in the

116:41 directions, but the wave vector is gonna have a component in the vertical

116:47 with a different wave number. You this is different from this one H

116:52 versus H one and more of our that it's ne negative with the conventions

116:58 have. That means it's down and over here, you have a similar

117:02 but it's upcoming. Why it's because got a plus right there. So

117:08 means we're gonna be allowing waves that they're going uh to the right,

117:13 echoing up and down inside here. , what uh uh what can we

117:21 about this wave vector has 22 components that H one and H three.

117:28 so the square of the length of wave vector is gonna be the sum

117:32 the squares of those two components. that is related to the frequency by

117:38 S one velocity in this way, is familiar to, to you.

117:44 , in other words, this solution , in some of two ways,

117:50 one of these solves the wave equation . Some of these two and uh

117:55 also going to be a solution. noticed they have different constants on here

117:59 front and they potentially dependent on So this proposed solution solves the wave

118:10 if and only if we have this between the wave vector and the

118:16 Remember that the wave vector itself does appear in the wave equation, neither

118:24 the frequency. But uh uh this work if uh we have this relationship

118:30 that's for the upper medium only for lower medium, we only have um

118:36 waves because there's nothing down here to waves back up. The only reason

118:42 have an upcoming wave is because it's be reflected off of this boundary.

118:47 there's nothing to whatever uh goes down is never coming back. And it's

118:54 a different wave vector. It's got wave vector which we call K,

118:58 got two indices. Uh um uh two components K one and K

119:04 the square of the length of that vector is given by the sum of

119:10 of its components related to uh to with the S with the VS

119:17 Because the wave equation which governs wave down here has vs two in

119:23 I'm just gonna back up here. I back up here, here it

119:28 . Here's the wave equation down here a vs two here. The wave

119:33 has a vs one. OK. going back forward. So, so

119:38 is our trial solution and has seven here. Here's the list of the

119:42 parameters. It's got um uh three and four wave vector components. And

119:50 we're gonna use the previous three equation solve for these seven different crimes.

120:00 um in order to meet the boundary at all, uh horizontal positions,

120:05 like we had with the wave we have to find out just as

120:10 had with a really um a We have to find out that uh

120:14 H one is the same uh the, the horizontal component of the

120:20 vector in the upper medium has to to the horizontal component of the wave

120:24 in the lower medium according to the way voc that's the first time we

120:30 love way velocity. Now we go the logic similar to what we did

120:35 railways. But there's a lot of which uh I'm not gonna reproduce.

120:41 we come up here that VL is be the solution of this equation.

120:45 a pretty complicated equation. Here's the sign in here. We got a

120:49 of square roots and we got here the VL here here. And also

120:54 here and also here, like we a tangent function here. So I

120:59 that this whatever is inside the argument the tangent function better be non

121:06 that would be non dimensional. So this non dimensional where the, the

121:11 root is non dimensional? You can , and also you can see that

121:15 omega times D that's the layer of divided by VL, that's also a

121:20 dimension. So this is a properly tangent function here, we have the

121:26 of the two sheer moduli in the mediums. And uh uh unless we

121:33 the L again, so it's a equation. So I don't think you

121:38 solve you. Uh I don't think can solve that um in your

121:42 but here's what we're gonna do. gonna do the same geophysical thing that

121:47 did before we're gonna re oh Before get to that, let, let

121:52 point out here that uh here is frequency right in here when we did

121:57 um when we found the velocity for rail wave, there was no frequency

122:03 there. Here is the frequency. um um here, it says here

122:09 if you look at this closely in high frequency limit, the uh the

122:14 , the low velocity goes to be to the upper sheer velocity. And

122:20 low frequency limit it go goes to lower fre body way velocity. That's

122:27 . And you can test that for by considering that your omega make it

122:33 be very large and you'll uh uh find uh the uh uh everything simplifies

122:41 uh uh to where the VL then vs one as omega becomes infinite.

122:55 conversely, for a low frequency, do we know whether a given frequency

123:00 high or low? Well, we it's high or low when it's compared

123:07 V sub L divided by DVL divided D has the dimensions of frequency.

123:15 if this omega is large compared to ratio here, um uh then it's

123:24 large frequency and conversely, it'll be low frequency. So you see that

123:30 layer thickness defines a characteristic frequency so we know whether a given frequency is

123:40 or low compared with DV and divided the uh the love weight velocity.

123:50 let's rep parameter that assuming that uh the upper medium is slower than the

123:56 medium that's very common. So we're define a quantity uh zeta in this

124:02 . And then we're gonna uh uh that into the previous equation, make

124:06 tailor expansion in zeta. And as result of that we come up with

124:11 much simpler expression. And I think can look at this one and we

124:16 see uh uh what it's trying to us no, the uh the,

124:22 ratio of D to now D to wavelength uh of the sheer wavelength.

124:38 what this means is for larger sheer that are smaller, sheer smaller

124:45 zeta gets larger, uh larger uh depends in a positive way on,

124:52 that. Uh it is positively correlated the wavelength. So here's an example

125:02 using that format for three different uh different thicknesses. And we're assuming now

125:09 the upper case u upper uh uh is very slow and the uh lower

125:16 is not, is a bit So maybe these are plausible uh uh

125:23 numbers. Uh You can do your . Everything here is so simple,

125:27 can do your own. And so way vectors have this character in the

125:31 medium, sure enough, we have upper upgoing me an upgoing wave and

125:37 wave and they move together to the side and find within that layer that

125:43 love wave velocity, but they're propagating a velocity of vs one, they're

125:49 going, you know, straight to to the side, they're going,

125:53 they're going back and forth, going there. And the common point in

125:58 direction is uh uh the love way the we uh in, in,

126:12 order to match the conditions we have uh the, the love wave velocity

126:18 , is in a, it was to be equal to the upper um

126:25 upper shear wave velocity times H one H three. How about in the

126:31 me? It looks like this? decayed, the amplitude decayed the way

126:35 zero um in the lower medium just uh a railway. So uh uh

126:44 algebra for love wave is a lot complicated than the algebra for uh

126:51 right. And of course, um in the real subsurface, it's gonna

127:00 lots of layers rather than uh just layer. But you can see immediately

127:05 this that the that, that we to have nontrivial love wave solutions only

127:12 we had this layer boundary here. , since love waves are not so

127:20 in our data, Israeli ways, gonna stop the love wave discussion at

127:23 point. Uh But I'll give you few quiz questions. So here's the

127:28 one. this one goes to you , it says true or false.

127:33 is likely that one might observe a wave component on the vertical component of

127:38 Geophones on land. Is that true false? That's false, right?

127:45 we define the love wave is polarized . So it's not gonna register on

127:50 ver. So you, you are . So that's all I wanna say

127:55 love wave because love waves are not in our data for that very

128:01 That's the reason right there. But learned something here. We learn something

128:06 uh love ways. By the simple , we learned that love ways uh

128:12 which depend upon uh the frequency. we call that um I would call

128:26 phenomena dispersion because the uh uh high get ahead of the lower frequency or

128:33 versa. Let's uh uh let's think that and uh which, which ones

128:39 fast and which ones are slow? , uh going back to the railway

128:44 discussion, we, we had, , we found that the railway wave

128:49 did not, did not depend on , but we just showed that the

128:53 wave oh Look at that. This a typo. Uh I uh this

129:02 say V sub L it's a typo there. Uh You, you should

129:10 that in your notes and I will that for myself. Uh And,

129:17 , or thoughts, I mean uh during lunch, I'm gonna go back

129:21 correct that. That is on slide . OK. Now, why did

129:27 have this difference between rail waves and waves? Well, in the rail

129:31 discuss rail wave discussion, we had uniform half space because it was

129:38 There was no way to know whether given frequency it was a high frequency

129:44 low frequency. There was no, was no characteristic frequency and no characteristic

129:52 in the rail wave discussion. So didn't know whether any given frequency was

129:58 a high frequency or low frequency. that's why the frequency cancel out of

130:04 uh analysis. But um uh in real world, we have rail waves

130:15 in ne near surface layered formations. these layers provide characteristic links just like

130:21 found for the love wave free love solution. And because uh of those

130:27 links which come from the model, gonna have characteristic frequency. And so

130:34 know whether given the frequency is high or low frequency compared to those characteristic

130:41 which come from the lyric. And call that dispersion. And uh so

130:49 was laying that car this person in low way as you can just uh

130:55 for yourself by going back a few to the solution. Now think about

131:02 whatever, whenever high frequencies propagate with velocity at the low frequencies, what

131:10 means is that the wavel its change as they propagate. Therefore, the

131:18 of the wavelet is not a simple . We have just referred casually to

131:23 velocity of body weights uh uh and velocity of the wavelength following that same

131:29 wave velocity. But now we're realizing since the wavelength is changing shape,

131:37 simple concept of velocity is too Now, in a context where the

131:48 yeah, uh or the velocity is dependent. Let's uh let's consider for

132:04 given plane wave with this phase you see it, this phase factor

132:10 is defined by this difference here. satisfies the wave equation if and only

132:17 we have this relationship between velocity and and wave number K. And we

132:24 we conclude that whether or not the varies with frequency, go back to

132:31 we first derived this. And you'll that at no point here uh at

132:37 at no point, did we assume the velocity changes with frequency or

132:44 So this laneway travels with this But the, the wave, the

132:53 which is a superposition of plane waves this might travel with a different

133:05 we're gonna call this the phase What what, what what we just

133:10 and then a maximum of the phase uh uh occurs where the ver the

133:17 of the phase with respect to frequency zero. So putting here right in

133:23 , the definition of phase carrying through derivative, we find that this equation

133:29 is satisfied where the maximum value of occur. At this point here moves

133:38 the group velocity which is uh given the derivative of omega with respect to

133:45 . The phase velocity is the simple and the group velocity, that's the

133:51 that the wavel moves with depends upon derivative in terms of phase velocity.

133:59 the group velocity in terms of phase ? Well, uh uh let's work

134:03 this with the inverse of the group we call this the group slowness.

134:08 simply the inverse of the formula that just showed. I'm gonna go back

134:12 the, the formula for the, group velocity and the inverse of

134:17 that's this, that's the truth in to uh frequency of K. Let's

134:23 in there for K, let's put the previous expression for uh K in

134:27 of the shades velocity carry through the the uh der the this differentiation using

134:38 rule calculus. And we find that inverse of the group velocity is equal

134:43 the inverse of the phase velocity minus factor which shows how the phase velocity

134:50 with frequency. And we can uh this using tailors expansion. And when

134:57 do that, we convert the minus a plus. So uh uh this

135:02 normally AAA good approximation because normally this dependence is weak. So uh uh

135:11 this uh d derivative is less than , we call that normal dispersion and

135:17 root velocity is slower than the phase . But we can also have other

135:22 where the uh phase velocity varies in positive sense. With frequency, we

135:27 that inverse dispersion in that in that root velocity is faster than the phase

135:35 . So let me just uh uh uh show you an example. Um

135:41 we have two plane waves, one two, each of them traveling to

135:48 right with slightly different frequencies. Can see here at the uh at this

135:54 that the two are lined up. then as time goes on, uh

135:58 one gets a little bit ahead of other. See you can see this

136:02 peak is ahead of this one so uh we can call this time

136:08 And the loc these local peaks travel with the shades velocity. See this

136:13 line goes in the top of the wiggle, top of the wiggle top

136:19 the wiggle. But the envelope here the envelope of uh uh of this

136:27 wav that travels with a good So uh look here, the uh

136:32 green line is going through the uh midpoint between these two and uh uh

136:38 two major peaks. And that's the of the envelope up here. The

136:44 of the envelope is there at uh uh at, at the central

136:49 See how, how this wavel has shape. Here, it's got uh

136:55 uh the central peak is a negative uh uh it's got uh two positive

137:01 uh uh on both sides of of the OK Centroid of the

137:09 Uh But here it's a different shape . It's uh uh the center of

137:14 wavel is is positively. And it's again, it's, it's between

137:19 two peaks. So the envelope travels this group velocity. Here's another example

137:27 this wavelength here, this is uh running uh uh uh in time is

137:33 this, but the wavelength is progressing space like this. Uh at

137:38 the earliest times the wavel looks like and then at later times it progresses

137:43 then progresses from so and watch watch this little uh wiggle right here

137:53 the middle. Call that a phase here, you see it here and

137:57 it's here and here it's here. so those that phase break travels with

138:07 phase velocity according to this line this line here. So that that

138:15 connects all the lines where the P here. But look at the phase

138:20 here is at the beginning of the . Here, it's the middle of

138:23 wavelength here, it's the ladder and it's the end of the wavelength and

138:28 it's gone out the back end. see that's an example of how the

138:33 the uh wavelength is changing shape as goes along. So meanwhile, the

138:49 is traveling with a good velocity. this line goes through the peak of

138:54 envelope of the wave. So that's different velocity, that's a good velocity

139:02 the phase velocity uh uh is uh line here. So in this

139:09 the phase velocity is less than the velocity because this slope is less than

139:15 slope. Anybody have any questions about . This is very good figure coming

139:25 this. I'm not sure if I if I understanding correctly uh the great

139:32 is also the envelope velocity for this , right? Say that again

139:37 It's uh no, I kind of question would be the weight velocity is

139:45 same in comparison with the envelope velocity this. So, so in this

139:52 , we would say that uh the as we're tracking this wavel arriving on

139:58 uh uh on our workstations, we would be tracking this uh uh

140:04 velocity here. So that's what we call the wave velocity is the group

140:09 of the wavelength. But uh uh uh because, and in our,

140:15 much of our data, our sur of our surface data um uh the

140:24 the dispersion is pretty small. So wavelets keep their shape pretty well in

140:30 uh surface seismic data because the frequent frequency dependence of the uh uh oh

140:40 of the wave velocity is very small uh uh uh most cases. So

140:46 have in our uh data, we limited bands, right, right.

140:50 band, our observer band only goes between five Hertz and uh 100

140:55 And well, uh if we if we could see uh l lower

141:02 or or higher frequency, then the dependence on velocity would show up more

141:09 in our data. Since we have limited data, it's very common that

141:14 that band, the wavel keeps its pretty well. And you don't see

141:20 much of our data. This kind feature in surfaces data. You do

141:26 it in um of the surface waves there the surface waves um uh have

141:35 much stronger frequency dependence because of the of the arguments that I gave before

141:42 the an effect of of layering on wave propagation. So here is some

141:50 data. It's, it's a pretty picture but uh I took this from

141:55 and Gildart and you can see that the largest amplitudes in this data are

142:01 coming th this band of amplitudes And that's uh uh railing waves.

142:07 You uh are not really interested in railing waves. What you're really interested

142:12 is the reflections that are are smaller . Now, maybe you can see

142:19 reflection maybe right here is a almost horizontal. So this is maybe

142:25 a hyperbolic move out here, maybe here, you see something but it

142:30 really hard to see anything useful in diagram. So the the regular waves

142:38 are arriving in this wedge of um , of offsets and arrival time.

142:44 that the maximum of the group philosophy is given here and the minimum of

142:49 group velocity is given here. And it looks very messy. It uh

142:54 uh uh uh frequency. See thi this frequency uh the arrivals here

143:02 to be uh one frequency only, arrivals are uh uh appear AAA different

143:08 . But uh both of them, see uh um what we call ringing

143:14 , which is a single frequency arriving that time man of time.

143:20 you see their linear move outs, they, they don't necessarily ex extrapolate

143:25 to the uh back to the But because uh these uh uh

143:33 uh these frequencies here are higher shorter, uh shorter wavelength are appearing

143:43 you know, after these. So separated uh uh by frequency inside this

143:51 and we call that a dispersion. . Now, here's something that you

143:58 it is not really obvious, it out which we will discuss in lecture

144:05 . There's an intimate connection between dispersion we're talking about now. And attenuation

144:11 is the first time we've mentioned an . So we're gonna discuss this connection

144:17 lecture night for now for now. don't need to do ah or so

144:25 um Here we have a definition, definition of dispersion. Is that un

144:32 or false? But I'm not I think it's, it's just,

144:42 just a definition. Yeah. And it's a good definition. And

144:46 uh it's not a trick question but I'm glad that you're uh uh

144:51 looking for tricks, but uh didn't in any tricks this time. This

144:57 basically uh what we said for a of this person. So that was

145:03 . OK. So um next question to Grace says uh uh so uh

145:12 is this statement true or false. was dispersion in our discussion of love

145:18 because the layer thickness provided a standard comparison. And given wavelengths depend uh

145:25 differently according to whether a given wavelength short or long compared to the layer

145:31 . Is that a a true statement or not? I think it's

145:43 Yeah, that is true. And a fundamental idea that uh in the

145:48 wave problem that we did, there no way to determine whether a given

145:52 is uh a higher like a high there or low. No way to

145:58 whether given frequency or was high or . So frequency was not part of

146:02 discussion. But when we have then we know that some wavelengths are

146:08 compared to that layer thickness, there's short. So that provides a standard

146:14 comparison answer that uses this dispersion fundamental why we have dispersion in the

146:21 So sorry, professor. The previous was true. Yeah, this one

146:28 true. That's, that's the please. Thanks. So you got

146:33 right answer for this one. coming to le le uh uh is

146:39 true or false? There, there no dispersion in our simple discussion.

146:43 first discussion of. Right. Well, no, uh uh take

146:48 back right, in the first discussion rail waves. Um Well, uh

146:55 me uh uh begin it. Our wave discussion which we did yesterday was

147:02 simple case. No, layers because was no time parameter in the problem

147:08 provide a frequency standard and no length to define a wavelength standard. So

147:14 didn't know whether given frequency was high low. Is that statement true or

147:19 ? Yeah, that one's true. . So uh and that's why we

147:23 no dispersion in our really way of . And it's also true why uh

147:28 the uh uh uh Y Lee is is uh when Utah is, is

147:36 looking at his data, he sees person because he's looking at real data

147:41 layers coming from the layered media. he's got this person in his uh

147:46 his data. So he deals with . That's, that's his thesis

147:51 to deal with it. Next question it comes to you Carlos, now

148:00 that we look at a seismic record which the wavelength does not change shape

148:05 . So, uh I know uh this wave traveling with uh uh uh

148:13 asked a question for the, the velocity is the same as the group

148:17 ? Now, is it traveling with velocity a lot less than the phase

148:22 , a lot greater than the phase but equal to the phase velocity or

148:27 of the above. And this uh this statement sort of applies to a

148:32 of our reflection seismic data, doesn't , the wavelength doesn't change a lot

148:38 it uh goes from one layer to other and I always trying to

148:44 it should be about the same. , about the same. Yeah.

148:49 uh since it's about the same, uh then it doesn't change shape and

148:54 not much dispersion. And um uh , uh uh we do see a

149:01 of uh shape of the wavelet when look at long reflection times. Think

149:08 your mind about long uh uh times your workstation and you always see that

149:14 lower frequencies at those long times and frequencies of the early time. Does

149:21 agree? So that factor comes from . Uh So uh the those

149:29 those uh arrivals coming in a long have a different shape than the wavel

149:35 in at short times because uh uh of attenuation. And that's an example

149:45 what I mentioned before. I Well, no, let me back

149:50 up because of that, of that uh change of shape, you

149:56 it's, it's losing frequencies a long . So there mu so that's due

150:01 attenuation. So there must be a that comes along with that, but

150:08 a weak dispersion. Uh And we see much of it usually in our

150:14 as reflection data, mostly we've got ignore that, but maybe not

150:20 So um that's something to keep in when you're looking at real data.

150:26 . John, from what we have . OK. So um I spent

150:38 lot of time today. Um, , remembering, uh, stories from

150:44 past. So, uh, because we don't wanna run out of

150:49 later in the course. So I'm , uh, talk only very briefly

150:55 two graves. So when you have truth, that is when you have

150:59 borehole, then you've got a surface there that the waves are gonna

151:05 um, uh, noticing. So , the free surface is not the

151:09 surface that, uh, it is to us also uh uh surfaces of

151:16 holes. We, when we do a borehole sonic, we have our

151:21 down there in the bore hole close the uh borehole wall. And so

151:29 waves which are traveling in that mud being affected by the uh the presence

151:36 the wall. So we're gonna have a surface waves traveling on the wall

151:42 the tube. He on the wall the borehole, not just uh not

151:49 at the free surface of the right borehole surface is another important surface

151:55 is gonna be given as surface not just um uh the railing waves

152:02 we've discussed so far, but uh these can be very complicated, but

152:06 going to uh uh mention only uh uh a couple of, of uh

152:12 aspects to them. So that cylindrical also has surface weight, they're seen

152:20 all vertical sizing profiles and all sonic . So these are called tube

152:28 OK. They are distinct from uh primary arrivals which uh we are gonna

152:35 about in lesson seven, which are give us P wave velocities. He

152:41 velocity is gonna be body wave, gonna be AAA certain type of body

152:46 traveling through the uh on the wall the formation outside the borehole wall.

152:57 what the data that we're mostly interested . With our uh with our um

153:03 tools are most, we're mostly gonna these tube waves to be noise.

153:09 they all propagate in one D, go up up hole or they go

153:13 hole or both, you gotta analyze using a cylindrical coordinate system. So

153:18 , there's a great example of where Cartesian coordinate system uh is uh really

153:24 very useful because of the, the shape. Moral. So they're gonna

153:31 uh uh have get to be exponentially smaller away from the borehole

153:40 both towards the inside of the bore and towards the outside. So we

153:46 a AAA tool on the inside. uh uh as the these waves uh

153:53 smaller and smaller and uh uh in away from the Moor Hall wall,

153:59 where they're gonna be encountering our But it's gonna turn out that

154:04 they don't um uh for AAA large of frequencies. Uh They're still noticeable

154:13 our tool because of the uh finite of the moral that provides um uh

154:24 provides a characteristic length and So, that means that some wavelengths behave longer

154:30 some are some be, some are and some are short compared to that

154:35 . So we're gonna have dispersion and gonna reflect from every formation boundary uh

154:42 casing joint or dual diameter change. as these waves are going up and

154:47 , they're reflecting off the formation and outside the, the bar. If

154:53 casing, there's a casing joint, know, uh during this uh logging

154:58 casing wherever we have two joints of together, uh um uh that makes

155:06 we call a casing joint. And two words are gonna reflect off of

155:10 . Uh And our, our tool uh gonna be dangling down there in

155:15 borehole on a cable, you thousands of feet of cable. And

155:19 we get to the tool which is than the cable so that these two

155:23 are gonna be reflecting off of that tool itself. So now the most

155:31 of these is called the stoning Uh uh uh uh first started by

155:35 same guy stone that we talked about . So here is a picture of

155:40 of the borehole. See here is uh the formation here and here is

155:44 mud here and the half of the here and the other half I haven't

155:49 . So this is half of a of a moral, but this is

155:54 cross section to a cylinder. So turn it around sideways and, and

155:59 look at the same thing here. now it looks more much more like

156:03 , a layered rail wave problem. it's gonna be traveling this way,

156:07 polarized in this plant. But remember this is uh out of the plane

156:12 cylindrical, not uh uh not uh . So that's gonna affect the analysis

156:21 a fundamental way. So we're gonna a recording system in this way,

156:27 got Z in this direction, radius this direction and a and auth around

156:33 moor hall in that direction. So this analysis, we're gonna ig ignore

156:38 tool and we're gonna also ignore the length. So we're gonna look for

156:42 plane solutions and that, and that looks like um uh the railing wave

156:49 uh uh a layered really railing wave for in this cylindrical gry. And

156:56 uh uh in the wave equation is laplacian operator and it's uh as this

157:01 for cylindrical symmetry, it's more complicated cylindrical symmetry than for partition symmetry.

157:09 here is the wave equation right here the wave equation, right, right

157:13 in the WAV ation is the laplacian uh so uh waves have a body

157:20 velocity inside the fluid given by V F. And so we're gonna guess

157:26 solutions are like this. Now, don't see you should be wondering what

157:34 these uh functions here? Well, are vessel functions. So that's a

157:41 complicated kind of formula, a complicated of function which you can look up

157:49 any handbook of math of mathematical It's kind of like cosines and

157:55 except it's modified vessel function named after guy vessel who invented them. And

158:00 of that is uh it's very These two points are very complicated and

158:07 we're now running short on time, gonna skip over, I'm just gonna

158:12 them right here and skip over them uh take us to the end of

158:18 22 way discussion. So you can confident you might find it amusing to

158:25 this in the as homework. But we're now short on time, I'm

158:29 skip over it here and you can confident that things like this are not

158:33 appear on the uh yeah, on final exam, I'm just skipping ahead

158:41 now. Boundary condition discussion of boundary discussion of now, we have love

158:47 , different kinds of waves. This uh uh what uh a waveform might

158:52 like. And I, I'm just pause here and there's the P wave

158:57 right there and the sheer wave arrival there. But you see these two

159:05 , look at these, all these here. What, what have we

159:08 ? We've got um what we call railway and we've got only waves you

159:22 both of those as we, as in passing there is a special range

159:28 frequencies where uh the amplitudes uh where are simple. You see, this

159:34 stone waves from the rail waves that guy that was, that's a person's

159:39 , Harry, just like Raley and . OK. So, uh uh

159:47 all of those complications came from the cases. Uh uh in, in

159:53 real world, we have non cylindrical , we have deviated bore holes.

159:58 in the borehole wall is not perpendicular to the layer. We have stress

160:06 near the borehole. Remember this bore is being squeezed from the side,

160:11 and south, different from east and and surely that's gonna make a

160:15 We're gonna have drilling damage to the wall. We're gonna have what we

160:19 mud cake on the, on on edges of the wall. Now,

160:25 let me just uh stop and, ask uh uh bri to tell us

160:29 mud cake is. It's the residual mud that it's created on the edges

160:41 the, of the way the filtrated , that's very good. So,

160:47 knows about this because she works for . And she knows that in

160:51 in a bore hole, what we is uh uh uh not water circulating

160:57 mud circulating. And furthermore, she that the pressure inside the um uh

161:04 the, the mud of the borehole , is uh arranged to be higher

161:10 , than the native core pressure outside borehole. If it would,

161:15 if the pressure outside the bore hole greater than the pressure in the

161:20 then we would have mud, a fluid coming into the bore hole,

161:25 bore hole out the top of the hole. And that would be very

161:29 for the drillers out there to have uh to have that happening. So

161:33 arrange for the pressure in the be higher than the pressure in the

161:40 outside the ball. How do they that? They put more or less

161:45 uh particles in the mud, you , they, they can arrange for

161:49 mud to have any density than than they, than they want.

161:52 they arrange for it to have enough . So the pressure is higher than

161:58 formation fluid outside the borehole. And what that means is that gore hole

162:06 is continually moving from the borehole into formation because of that pressure difference.

162:16 as it, as it happens, as that uh uh mud flows into

162:22 bore hole, it filters out the the mud particles, the solid

162:28 in the porosity in the near war formation. So that clogs up the

162:38 in uh uh uh uh yeah in near surface uh rocks and then eventually

162:47 perm B goes away. And so you don't lose any more borehole

162:52 . So that is a typical situation the, the uh this formation just

162:58 the borehole has its pores clogged up mud and we call that mud

163:05 So, uh Crusader knows all about because she works for a company.

163:16 Then there's a uh different modes of deformation of the bore hole. Uh

163:24 , we're gonna talk more about that later. Uh uh And then there's

163:30 be anti such. And so all these complications are not included in the

163:37 of two waves, which was already complicated, so complicated that I skipped

163:42 it. OK. So, uh , we did talk a little bit

163:49 two waves. And so let's uh uh see what you can remember from

163:55 . Uh concerning the borehole surface wave waves is uh so we, we

164:04 a bore hole which is um almost . So that naturally introduces uh ABC

164:12 D uh all, all, all the above. So let me start

164:16 uh uh li la. So uh a true, yeah, because those

164:22 because the borehole is gone only in direction, surface waves can only go

164:27 one direction up or down. Uh it's one dimensional. So uh

164:34 uh how about the, the plain uh I in cylindrical coordinates? Uh

164:41 Does that naturally come into this problem of the shape? Yeah, I

164:48 it's so, yeah, if we to do this problem in terms of

164:52 geometry, it would be, you , just impossible to describe even um

164:59 cylindrical surface where we have the boundary . So we gotta have cylindrical coordinates

165:06 the lalos operator which appears in the equation has that cylindrical form. And

165:12 preceda uh is, is, is uh is a solution in the vessel

165:17 . The answer is yes. Uh we have all, all of the

165:21 cancer here. So uh uh now true, true or false, let's

165:29 um uh think about this. And gonna turn to um uh uh Mesa

165:36 I uh since, since she didn't get a chance to answer that last

165:41 , this one goes back to Meader it's a long question. So let's

165:45 it through. So realistic railways on earth's surface spread out in two dimensions

165:51 means uh that the amplitude decreases rapidly offset. So, uh uh we

166:06 in our analysis of railing waves, showed a cross section of the earth

166:11 and Z. But now it's looking asking about the earth's surface and spreading

166:17 out in who as the directions XX Y. And so the energy uh

166:23 it is spreading out in both west and north, south, never

166:31 uh depth, but uh it spreads from, from the source spreads out

166:37 two dimension rapidly. That's a statement uh uh of faction that's generally

166:45 Now, the next statement is applying concept to now, OK. So

166:52 , by contrast, the two waves a bar hall spread out in only

166:57 dimension which is along the bar So that the uh the amplitude decreases

167:05 more slowly with offset uh uh along borehole than the, than the real

167:14 waves. And the surface is that true or false since it's confined to

167:21 dimension instead of two dimensions. Is true or false? I think it's

167:29 complicated question and, and, you , I didn't, I didn't teach

167:32 this. This is a uh a appealing to your common sense.

167:40 Uh If the energy is confined to dimension as opposed to two dimensions,

167:45 do you think Pera is, is gonna decrease uh more slowly or less

167:51 , or, or more slowly Yeah. So yeah. So that

167:56 it's gonna have high AM. So it's uh created at a certain depth

168:00 the Moor Hall, it's gonna stay that moral. And uh so it's

168:06 be energetic and the ball makes lots uh of noises inside the ball because

168:13 a one D problem as opposed to two D problem. So that's

168:20 So this one comes to you, le oh no, we're, we're

168:24 with the quiz. So uh le uh we'll take you up on

168:29 on the next quiz in the next . So uh this is a summary

168:33 what we learned in the surface wave . Surface wave. Like we learned

168:41 uh uh the wave equation does have which travel along the surface of the

168:48 . And there are various types of . That's what we learned. Uh

168:51 boundary conditions mean that these surface waves these waves which are traveling along the

168:59 , they travel with surface wave Um uh more complicated than the body

169:06 velocities. And furthermore, dependent on in a way that the body waves

169:12 not. And we learned that we that how really waves and low waves

169:19 uh observed and uh where and so and why in the balls we have

169:25 waves traveling along the borehole surface which call two wave. So that brings

169:35 to the next topic of reflections and . And this is what makes seismic

169:43 so valuable, all this other what it was be would be amusing

169:50 a physicist. Uh uh but he think that it's uh uh all old

169:56 physics and that's all true. But we get to this kind of,

170:01 uh phenomenon coming out of the wave . And that is what makes are

170:08 interesting. That's what makes it possible use seismic data to find oil and

170:15 . And furthermore, since the um know, since the subsurface is so

170:22 , this is gonna be a complicated . And we like to say in

170:26 that the physicist uh uh stairs on uh uh uh sixth floor of our

170:34 , they um uh stopped studying elasticity it got too complicated for them.

170:40 then they, they turned their attention uh quantum mechanics and relativity. Uh

170:46 ago when uh elasticity got to be complicated for them. But in

170:53 that's the secret to our paychecks. that's what we're gonna do. So

170:59 this, we're gonna stop this lecture we're going to stop sharing that program

171:12 we're gonna start sharing the next lecture I'm gonna put that into presentation mode

171:35 then you can help me here find um find the account. So.

172:10 OK. Mhm mhm There there. that um so first movie OK.

172:24 people see now the entry slide for less than six? OK. So

172:32 this uh lesson, we're gonna learn reflections and refraction. And uh so

172:44 a list of objectives. At the of this lesson, you will be

172:49 to explain what are the boundary conditions the interface between two reflecting horizons.

172:56 furthermore, uh uh you'll uh find these boundary conditions result in simple formula

173:05 normally incident minar P waves. And . So uh uh um OK.

173:16 , I need uh I need a here. OK. So uh this

173:20 be uh uh uh we're gonna consider the, in the first instance,

173:25 waves uh intersecting the boundaries. And of the boundary conditions, we're gonna

173:33 reflections which are simple, have a formula. You probably already know it

173:38 normally it's in B WA and for more complicated formula for obliquely incident B

173:47 . So remember that most of our comes from oblique incident. So the

173:52 that we have simple expression here, so interesting, much more complicated

173:59 In fact, it's too complicated for . But uh we are gonna simplify

174:05 complicated equations by making the assumption that uh elastic contrast across this reflect and

174:13 this interface right here, those con those elastic contrast are weak and we'll

174:20 what we mean by weak. And what that means is we're gonna be

174:24 that at the top of a the rocks are pretty similar to above

174:29 below that uh the top reservoir And when we do that, uh

174:36 gonna simplify these formula and you are already familiar with these simplified expressions,

174:44 you probably have uh some misconceptions, talk about those. Now, these

174:51 these equations simplify even more uh when think about the free surface. And

174:56 course, that's where our instruments So that's an important thing to think

175:00 . Um uh we, we're gonna uh think about what happens when the

175:07 of incidence is large and is when have a large offset between source and

175:16 . And then finally, we're gonna out what happens when the infinite wave

175:20 curved right up right up here. assume plane waves. But uh but

175:24 don't have plane waves do we in uh in the real earth, we

175:29 localized, we have waves which are out with curved wavefront, spreading out

175:35 a point source. So they're always . OK. And we take that

175:42 late in the game. OK. then what happens when the interface is

175:47 ? Uh So uh the interfaces are all flat are they and suck a

175:55 list of uh things we're gonna take . So, first, let's do

175:59 easy, let's get into this uh um one step at a time.

176:04 uh we're gonna think about a early elastic interface with an elastic isotropic elastic

176:12 above and one below is one OK. Now, so we're gonna

176:20 this with P waves. So we uh uh our wave equation looks like

176:26 . We have a P wave velocity we have a scalar potential and,

176:30 this is not the observable, the comes from uh finding the gradient of

176:36 potential. But uh it'll be easy us to think about this in terms

176:41 um this scalar wave equation. So the solutions are a, some

176:49 plane wave terms each of which looks this. So you're familiar with this

176:56 , and the length of this wave right here is given by the thermal

177:01 of the components and that's related to frequency via the P wave velocity.

177:08 . That's all familiar to you by . So here's a picture of the

177:13 that we are looking at, we a isotropic medium above and below.

177:18 one is characterized by a velocity and density velocity and a density we have

177:23 P wave velocity coming in at this . So uh uh the direction of

177:28 is indicated by the black arrow here our um and coordinate system. So

177:36 have uh uh obligation in the 13 . OK. So we have uh

177:45 the scalar wave equation above scalar wave below. And the only difference here

177:50 well, the unknown is different The unknown is phi two here.

177:54 unknown is phi one here. The parameter is VP one. And here

178:00 material parameter is VPT notice here that specified the density also but the density

178:06 appear here. So why did we the density? That's an interesting

178:13 Now, with any task space, expect to find plane wave solution and

178:18 gonna have uh coefficients in there that gonna choose to obey the boundary

178:24 So uh because of that interface, is intrinsically a vector problem, so

178:31 write out the uh vector displacements in of the gradients of the um of

178:38 scale of potential. And when we , when you take the, the

178:42 of a plane wave, uh what means is that uh uh uh

178:53 As a uh after we take the , we get a vector and the

178:59 is pointing in the, in the direction as K. It's got the

179:03 here, this I comes from here the gradient operation, it's gonna have

179:07 constant and we're gonna put all this here and call that uu vector uppercase

179:15 vector. So the lowercase U vector uh the amplitude uh as it changes

179:23 uh time and space, but the uh is a vector which only depends

179:29 frequency. So in terms of vector , this displacement vector has components UV

179:38 W and when I say here, without uh uh an arrow that means

179:43 the X component. And so uh , in terms of uh the uppercase

179:52 out track, uh we're gonna denote as a vector with three components,

179:57 UVNW, all of them get multiplied this uh oscillator factor. Now,

180:05 we're in a position to examine the conditions. So they are,

180:10 they're not new ideas, they come the wave equation itself. And so

180:16 first boundary condition is that the displacement be continuous across the interface at all

180:23 . We do not, we do want to look at solutions where the

180:28 wave here's the interface, we have have the displacement of the interface to

180:37 the, the same above and So that's a boundary condition. We

180:47 want to think about ways which tear uh the interface. So, and

180:56 , these, these three components of have to all have to be

181:02 Second boundary condition is the stress components have a three in the, among

181:08 indices must be continuous across the Otherwise, the vertebra gradient of stress

181:17 the uh uh uh that appears in wave equation that would be infinite.

181:21 so the acceleration of the interface would infinite. So we can't have

181:27 Uh And so uh we have this boundary condition. So here it is

181:33 symbols, we have ta 13, it equals Tau 31 in, in

181:39 of um the, in terms of hook, hook's law, in terms

181:46 strain and stiffness that's equal to And you see there's a sum over

181:52 Ks and L's here that we're talking only the 13 component, that's the

181:57 13 that you see here, here have 23 and here we have

182:02 So all of the stresses components which aligned with the boundary that is,

182:06 all have everything that has a three the subs in the, among the

182:10 , they have to be continuous across boundary. OK. Yeah. So

182:18 the first question, I think this comes to late. Uh This is

182:23 true or false, says the boundary at the interface between tactic and media

182:30 continuity of stress and strain. Is true? Uh Well, you

182:35 that is a common mistake. So back up. We were talking about

182:42 . So that's that's continuous. But gonna back up one more slide

182:50 Mhm OK. So here we said is the, what we heard before

182:57 we said the displacement is continuous. did not say that the strain was

183:04 straight, not displacement, not. displacement is continuous. Why it strain

183:16 the uh is the the uh derivative displacement strain is the root of the

183:24 . So we will see that the is not necessarily uh uh uh but

183:29 the displacement which has got to be . And the, and the strain

183:34 the derivative of this displacement. So what we decided about displacement. Here's

183:39 we decided about stress. And so uh the answer to this is uh

183:47 . OK. A common mistake. . Uh This one comes to you

183:57 uh uh Is this true or All the components of displacement but must

184:02 continuous. Is that true? It be false based on what you just

184:08 if I uh well, no. uh So here we're talking about

184:16 not about stress. Now, if had here. So, so if

184:21 had this continuity of any component of , that would be a tear in

184:26 interface, uh That's not what we . So, so, so uh

184:32 this one is true and I yeah, and now uh uh

184:38 this one is a similar uh uh but is now uh talking about

184:44 Is that one true or false? is false, that's false because it's

184:50 , only the components of stress which uh a three out among their uh

184:56 indices. Uh uh those are uh . OK. So now, um

185:07 uh let's talk about a special case the previous problem, normal incidents.

185:16 here's our normal incident P wave and is uh uh the uh displacement here

185:25 only gonna be given by W zero we call this zero because it's the

185:41 wave. And so it's gonna have frequency given by omega zero. And

185:47 gonna have an amplitude given by uppercase zero. And then it's gonna have

185:52 oscillator factor. And in this, the oscillation, we have the same

185:57 zero and we have now a K , which is this arrow here that

186:02 can see and that's gonna be related uh omega zero and VP one,

186:09 is the velocity in the, in upper medium by this expression here.

186:15 the bus uh makes it traveling downwards our conventions might wanna think about

186:23 uh uh you know, later. uh but we have a minus here

186:27 that means that the uh uh uh K zero is gonna be a plus

186:32 zero over VP one that's in the media. Now, let's just assume

186:40 that because of this boundary conditions, gonna have both a reflected and a

186:44 wave I think that's pretty obvious. here's the reflected wave. And so

186:49 uh look what we have here. We uh we're gonna call this uh

186:53 W one. So this is W . So this is W one and

186:58 also a function of, of uh position and time and its own frequency

187:04 one which is maybe different from omega and it's gonna have its own um

187:12 uh number, uppercase W one. with our conventions, let's make put

187:18 a minus one call that a minus for the, so we had no

187:27 here. We're gonna put a minus here. And then let's look at

187:31 uh at the oscillator factor. It's omega one t same omega one we

187:39 here. It's got AM minus K . So this K one is the

187:46 not the, not the one it, it before we use the

187:51 uh this the CYB K one to the horizontal component, uh a wave

187:56 uh wave traveling uh horizontally here. wave is traveling vertically with AAA vertical

188:04 only. And K one is related Omega one with this minus sine here

188:10 sine here and a minus sine That means that this wave is going

188:16 . So these conventions are sort of it's easy to uh make mistake uh

188:24 you're uh when you're putting together a like this, you got to uh

188:28 clear in your mind what a plus and what a minus means,

188:33 at, at every position in And, uh, if you,

188:37 you screw up somewhere you're gonna come with a wrong answer. And in

188:42 , uh, uh, for many , uh, back in the

188:45 19 twenties, uh, people did the wrong answer because of the mistakes

188:51 , uh, by signing, signs here making the right sign by

188:56 . Well, this is just for reflected wave. How about the transmitted

189:01 , transmitted wave is gonna have uh we're gonna name the amplitude and her

189:07 . So we have an incoming W A reflected W no incoming W zero

189:14 W one and transmitting W-2. But gonna have uh its own frequency,

189:21 mega two and it's gonna have its constant uppercase W-2 and it's gonna have

189:27 own K vector going down which is in the same direction, but might

189:32 a different amplitude than this one. K two is different from K

189:38 The K two is related to a frequency omega two with the B

189:43 velocity of uh the lower medium. . So this is uh this is

189:51 we're going to assume for a solution this problem normal. It in,

189:56 P wave reflected and transmitted outgoing And uh uh we have here uh

190:06 determine is W 1 W-2 omega one Omega two. So we don't have

190:12 determine uh uh W zero, we uh make that to be any incoming

190:17 we want and any incoming frequency we . But these other things are gonna

190:23 on that. So let us put gas into our boundary conditions.

190:31 So the, the continuity of displacement that at the interface where X three

190:37 zero, let's back up here. three equals zero 00 oh uh XX

190:48 is the, is uh the depth uh that's this dimension here, X

190:54 . So at this, uh uh where X equals zero. So uh

190:59 the tangential components are all gonna be because uh this is, you

191:04 uh coming in vertically. So there's be no no displacement in the two

191:11 or in the one direction. So we get uh all these are zero

191:21 for the normal um uh the normal at the interface, uh uh We

191:29 say that the, the sum of two terms uh uh in the uh

191:35 medium is got to equal the, single term in the war meeting,

191:39 the clutch back up again. So sum of these two waves and here

191:43 a minus here and that uh that is gonna show up on the next

191:47 . So the sum of those uh terms here is that it be equal

191:52 this one down here at the That's what this says right here.

191:58 like each one of them has its frequency here. But we're only gonna

192:04 able to find solutions to this if these frequencies are the same. So

192:10 off the bat, we simplified our a lot uh by uh recognizing we

192:16 have the same frequency for all these and then we'll just drop the

192:23 So then uh uh uh we can out the exponential term and we get

192:28 equation here coming from this boundary OK. Now, we have uh

192:35 other powder condition is continuity of, stress. Uh And uh and we

192:41 two equations for Tau 13 and for 23. so, uh OK.

192:50 . In, in the upper we have uh uh we have this

192:58 element. Oh By the way, before we talk about that uh uh

193:06 , in either medium and for each , we're gonna have um for each

193:11 we're gonna have different strains. And and so in, and the upper

193:17 , we're gonna have a different stiffness we have in the lower medium.

193:23 uh uh in, in all C 1313 is equal to C

193:29 this is the sum or which uh required by uh uh book. And

193:36 we do that sum and express the in terms of displacements like so,

193:41 the same thing for uh the tw straight, but the tow 33 strain

193:48 gonna be a little bit different. uh after doing all the, uh

193:52 , uh after recognizing that many of uh terms are zero, we're left

193:58 only these three terms. Uh And , uh however, uh some of

194:04 are zero, We're gonna say that variation of the um uh of the

194:12 of the, of the displacement in , in the uh X direction with

194:17 to X that's gonna be zero and displacement in the Y direction with respect

194:22 Y it's also gonna be zero. we're only gonna be left with this

194:26 term. So these three expressions have lead to total stresses which are continuous

194:37 the interface. So the norm, normal stress for the incoming wave is

194:42 is given by this uh uh the zero means it's the incoming wave and

194:48 normal stress is given by Tau in terms of Hook's Law Hooks parameters

194:54 have for the upper medium, it upon M but nm sub one means

195:00 media and the um uh um the is given by the vertical derivative of

195:09 vertical displacement. I'm gonna back up here. A vertical uh displacement of

195:16 derivative, a vertical displacement. That's we have here. And that is

195:21 the incoming way with subscripts uh M the concept and zero for the incoming

195:31 . OK. So uh making this uh uh this is what we have

195:37 the incoming wave and making the derivative brings down uh uh a minus IK

195:45 . It is a minus IK zero comes down when I make this

195:52 And that's here. So uh at to equal zero, this term goes

196:00 . So we're left with this expression the vertical stress coming from the infinite

196:08 at the boundary. And now let's uh change notation express M one in

196:18 of uh density times square velocity. You, you know about that uh

196:24 M one is simply notations for Uh And the K zero is related

196:30 the um omega and the uh vertical by this. So we simplify all

196:37 . Uh and then we get this for Tau 33 for the infinite uh

196:43 wave. Now you can go through similarly, for the reflected wave is

196:48 one and for the transmitter wave is two. And so uh observe this

196:57 growing waves have even um uh indices and two in the upcoming wave has

197:05 index one. So that's a useful . Now, we have this for

197:12 of the three waves though the condition stress continuity means the, the,

197:17 stress coming from uh downgoing wave and reflected wave some together has to be

197:23 same as the uh uh stress of the, of the lower medium

197:30 the lower wave. And you combine two equations that we found. And

197:36 you then uh use a little bit algebra and you find that the ratio

197:40 the reflected ate to the infinite aptitude given by this, it's row two

197:48 two minus row one V one divided the sum. And so we call

197:53 the normal incident uh uh reflection car . And furthermore, and I

198:00 you know this expression how you know , where it comes from. At

198:05 same time, we find uh a for combining the the condition for stress

198:12 and for displacement continuity, we find second solution as the amplitude of the

198:20 wave as a ratio where the infinite is equal to one minus this

198:26 And we can call this the transmission fish. Now, I noticed that

198:33 independent of frequency. Why is It's because if you look at that

198:39 , there is no characteristic length in problem only in upper medium and lower

198:45 . And so uh uh uh uh incoming frequency doesn't know whether it's high

198:52 or low frequency because there is no length in the problem and no characteristic

198:58 time in the problem, no characteristic in the problem. So there's no

199:04 . Now, this product here density velocity. Remember we looked at velocity

199:11 not appear in all the wave equation me, density did not appear in

199:17 wave equation. Velocity appeared, but did not appear where did we get

199:23 ? I'm gonna back up a little density comes because it's hidden inside the

199:30 constant. And remember we expressed the in terms of, of uh uh

199:37 of uh uh D wave velocity. got to bring in the density.

199:42 that's when the density shows up. it showed up here and showed up

199:48 for the reflected wave and showed up for the transmitted wave and that all

199:54 up here. So that's where we the density even though it did not

200:00 in the wave equation itself. Now, we have a name for

200:05 product density times velocity and it's called impetus. So be expression is uh

200:14 uh given by the difference in in um uh above and below divided by

200:21 sum. And so we can express as the jump in impedance divided by

200:27 the average. So normally we have uh that this number is uh

200:38 a lot less than one. The car efficient is at um at most

200:45 boundaries is a lot less than So that the transmission coefficient is close

200:51 one that's AAA normal self. Whenever wave encounters an interface in the

200:59 most of it keeps on going and a small part gets reflected back up

201:06 . So I think this is um very familiar to you. The reflection

201:12 is a jump in ZP divided by the average notice that if the lower

201:25 has a higher impedance in the upper , then this jump right here is

201:31 than zero. So the reflection coefficient greater than zero. And so the

201:38 co efficient is less than one, minus a positive number is uh uh

201:46 than one. That's probably what you in your mind. But think about

201:51 . However, if the contrast in is less than zero, then re

201:58 coefficient is also less than zero and transmission coefficient is greater than one.

202:07 that means is more amplitude goes down out and comes in. And the

202:13 is, how is this positive? is this possible? So have have

202:20 people thought about this? I know familiar with this expression immediately, the

202:27 if you have a situation where the is uh uh the impedance and the

202:34 the lower medium is less than the in the upper medium, that's not

202:38 it says here. This is the where they, where lower is greater

202:42 ever. But you know, in earth, we have uh uh uh

202:47 of layers and it could happen that one of those layers, the lower

202:52 has a great, has a lesser than the upper medium. In that

202:58 , this deviation is uh negative, means that for such a uh an

203:06 , the reflection coefficient is less than and then transmitted co efficient is greater

203:12 one. See, that's what it right here, which means that more

203:16 goes down and out and am coming . How is this possible? So

203:22 me turn to, I think it's turn Carlos, how, how can

203:28 be that we have more altitude going and coming in? But I'm not

203:42 because I may hear you. Uh out loud. Yes. Professor.

203:48 , you don't have to answer. . Uh uh That's a puzzle,

203:53 it? It seemed like it's a . Uh uh So Meader, do

203:57 have an answer to this? I hear you thinking out loud. Um

204:08 , but I was thinking that it it amplifies. Say it again.

204:14 didn't quite, somehow it amplifies pl . So that's what it says.

204:20 amplifies somehow under these conditions. If lower media has a smaller impedance,

204:29 the uh uh the uh it that's what this is amplified and the

204:34 is very straightforward, right? It from this formula which I know you're

204:39 with. But I'm, I'm guessing you hadn't thought about it that when

204:45 ne when the reflection coefficient is the transmission coefficient is greater than

204:51 So like, and, and uh she says, somehow it amplifies,

204:56 very weird. It seemed like it's . But, you know, the

205:01 we went, uh we went through carefully, you're familiar with the

205:08 but there's an implication that you probably think about So could it be that

205:15 this um what says that somehow this in this circumstance, the interface amplified

205:24 incoming signal? Wow, that seemed it's impossible. But let's, let's

205:31 about this more. So the energy in that incoming way is given by

205:43 um it is the change in energy to the presence of the wave it's

205:51 by this sum of, of um uh of uh stress and strain.

205:58 uh uh the stress is shown here Hook's Law so that the strain uh

206:03 is appearing here a quadratic form. here's the system on it. And

206:07 see all these sums over I and and M and N. So

206:11 the left is a scr and on right is also a scalar with sums

206:16 all these things. Now for a traveling E wave, uh This is

206:21 simplified, all these sums go away we're left with only a term like

206:26 for each mode as a term like . So uh uh uh put in

206:40 for uh uh uh the strain is in the square of the strain is

206:45 by the square of DWDX three. this is the vertical displacement, taking

206:52 AAA diff a derivative with the vertical the vertical direction squared. And then

207:00 C 33 is gonna uh come down an M uh uh putting in

207:05 the English name for C 33 and carrying out these derivatives, we have

207:12 square. And uh so uh uh , I uh uh when it gets

207:19 , it's a minus one and it out this minus one. So the

207:23 thing simplifies down to this expression Uh For each mode, it's,

207:29 AAA square of the incoming amplitude times square of the P times the local

207:38 with the one half. So now energy flux for each mode is given

207:43 this, it's the velocity of that times this change of energy. So

207:49 we do is multiply what we found the previous slide by the velocity.

207:55 . So now uh uh we're gonna is the energy flux across this boundary

208:00 algebraically, we have the infinite flux . The reflected flux here with a

208:06 sign because it's uh uh uh it's up and the transmitter flux here.

208:13 um intuitively, we think that the has to be conserved there. So

208:21 the energy that's coming in, it's go out no more, no

208:28 But I remember that we found just minute ago, we found that the

208:36 increases in the downgoing wave under certain . And that what that causes the

208:43 . How is this possible? that turned us to this discussion of

208:48 and energy flux and we came to question of uh uh is energy

208:56 Um It can served at the boundary terms of the plane wave parameters.

209:04 same question is given by this. uh I just uh uh put in

209:09 each mode but in this expression, we uh just define and then answer

209:16 question, this simplifies to uh uh expression here, here you see ZP

209:23 . That's right here. Here you uh uh uh a another uh another

209:32 one that's this one here. Oh where, where does this reflection coefficient

209:36 from? That's the ratio of this to this one. So we divide

209:40 by W one that gives us this coefficient. And we ask ourselves the

209:45 is that the same on the left and the right side. Well,

209:51 can work out the algebra and you see that the answer is true.

209:56 thing is, is this equation throw this equate this question mark. Now

210:02 equation is true whether or not the coefficient is positive or negative. So

210:10 we can conclude from this is that situation that we had before with amplification

210:18 the lower me under the circumstance uh where the impedance was less. That's

210:29 a problem because even in that we're gonna have conservation of energy at

210:35 , at the reflecting horizon. So amplitude is bigger, but the stiffness

210:40 smaller. So the energy is the incoming and outgoing. And so that's

210:46 good thing. We wanna have energy at that boundary we don't want for

210:53 incoming ways to deposit any energy in interface that would heat up the

211:01 And we, that's, we don't that to happen. And sure

211:06 this says uh that it does not . Professor uh uh a question regarding

211:12 . So does that mean that the in amplitude or the, well,

211:16 amplification doesn't have to do anything with energy? Well, it does,

211:24 it, it all works out to proper the uh the, the high

211:29 in that lower medium that you fly as an amplification. That means high

211:35 . But it doesn't necessarily mean high . The energy is different than amplitude

211:42 the energy is concerned uh uh the amount of energy uh comes in uh

211:49 the incoming wave as goes out with two other wave. So energy is

211:54 even though the amplitude seems to be , it is bigger in that

211:59 But uh it's not a problem. just the way the equations tell us

212:05 amplitude should be. OK. So me see here. I think I

212:11 my laser. Yeah, here's my . OK. So let's uh let's

212:21 a quiz. Now, uh this I think comes to um uh Carlos

212:28 . Whose turn is it Lily OK. Li Lily's turn.

212:34 So, is this true or Uh the direction of propagation of a

212:38 waving is given by the gradient of phase? Uh uh That part is

212:47 . Mhm If the uh if the of the phase is negative, that

212:54 the wave advances in the direction of spatial coordinate, it is increasing

213:00 So this is a complicated question. so I'm going uh so the answer

213:04 this is truth. And so uh want you to go back over the

213:12 uh the material and verify number one the direction is given by the gradient

213:17 the fade. And number two, that gradient is negative, it means

213:23 the wave advances in the direction of space increasing co so that is

213:29 And that is, that principle lies the reason why we had minuses in

213:36 places in our proposed solution and pluses others. So, uh but I

213:42 say that it's, it's uh there's of opportunities here to get the wrong

213:47 . So, II, I want you all to, to study this

213:52 uh uh making your notes that this is true and then go back and

213:56 about it and uh convince yourself that parts of that is true. So

214:02 I'm gonna turn to Carlos for the one is of this true or

214:08 The amplitude of a continuous plane wave given by its magnitude at any time

214:16 space position where the phase is OK. So uh uh to,

214:22 answer that le le let's go back , let's go back here and go

214:27 back, way back, way way back, way back, way

214:41 . OK. So here's a, uh uh for the incoming way,

214:47 phase is this part here in uh uh um parentheses. And so the

214:55 uh way back there in, in quiz, the question was uh that

214:59 place where the phase is zero. imagine this is zero, this is

215:03 to the I times zero. And course, that's a one ee to

215:07 zero is one. And what that is that uh the, OK,

215:14 amplitude of the, of the way that place where phase equals zero,

215:21 simply given by this amplitude factor W . So that's the way we have

215:26 this up. And so the answer that uh uh uh so we didn't

215:33 it in that way. So that's we had to go back to look

215:36 the way we had things set up verify that at the place where the

215:41 is zero. The amplitude of the is given by this uh uh um

215:49 factor in front. So now I'm go forward now all the, all

215:53 uh uh skip over all this all this stuff, all this

216:01 all this stuff, all this OK. Yeah. So this is

216:07 we get. So uh uh so uh this is again a, a

216:14 of the thinking that led behind and led to uh the way we defined

216:19 those parts. OK. Uh By way, uh I think about

216:27 Um Yeah. Well, we did for a day. Uh uh

216:33 let me just give you this as assignment. I just convinced you,

216:39 hope, convince you that the answer this is true. And I showed

216:43 that by looking at our uh definitions the incoming phase. Now, I

216:49 for you to apply that same logic the uh uh to the reflected phase

216:59 uh to the re reflected way and is the answer still free that uh

217:04 that for a homework assign. For uh uh I have a question

217:10 , for this one. But even if the phase is not

217:15 we will still have a value of amplitude, right? Of course.

217:20 , of course. But it, it won't be the uh uh uh

217:24 pl uh that will give the magnitude other spacetime positions where the faith is

217:30 non zero. But uh uh that be different, that magnitude would be

217:36 than the amplitude factor uh which I back there. Yeah. OK.

217:44 now this one comes to your bea is this true or false? Uh

217:49 polarity of A P wave is measured the same direction as its wave

217:56 If the amplitude is positive, if amplitude is positive, the displacement at

218:05 zero is parallel to the wave no matter what direction that wave vector

218:10 . OK. So, uh uh , so uh I'm, I'm gonna

218:15 take you off the hook crusader. uh the homework question that I just

218:21 you is uh uh uh is connected the answer to this. So for

218:28 , go back and look at the the same uh diagram, the same

218:34 of the, of the model. you'll see that uh uh uh there's

218:41 minus signs appearing here and there in expression for the reflected wave compared to

218:47 incoming wave. And uh so use um um use that information in that

218:59 to answer this question. I would it's a hard question. Uh But

219:04 gonna need to uh uh to look uh uh how we have that set

219:10 . And uh so um uh uh give you, I'll give you a

219:16 . The answer to this is also . And I want you to verify

219:21 using the uh uh the cartoon that just looked at and with comparing

219:27 what that means in terms of um um of the reflected wave and the

219:34 wave from incoming wave and reflected And then uh by the way,

219:39 go on and apply it also for transmitted wave. So that's your homework

219:45 for everybody. The next question. this is the question about your

219:54 Mhm So uh is the answer to one A B or C? And

219:58 this one comes to Lili. Uh says C uh and so now I'm

220:05 , uh so why didn't you do , well, because C has the

220:10 sign here. A has the minus here. We can't, uh uh

220:14 two are gonna be similar to each . So we can't have a small

220:18 in the, the denominator. The number has to be in the

220:24 OK. Now, here's the hard . Uh I would for B we

220:30 have a minus sign here, but gave the answer to be C instead

220:36 B, tell me why you did . Yeah. Yeah. So uh

220:44 uh so her memory is correct and hope your memory is correct. When

220:49 , when you look at this uh reflection coefficient, it's gotta be uh

220:53 reflecting medium minus the incident medium and medium plus, I mean, that

221:01 matter here down here. We have me, we have uh an incident

221:06 minus reflecting medium. That's wrong because the um uh becau uh this answer

221:13 wrong. This is the one that derived and we derived it using all

221:17 conventions that we set up in the first statement of the problem and

221:27 Uh uh So uh this is the answer and if you don't follow the

221:33 , you get into trouble. So why the previous two questions were about

221:37 conventions for assigning all those minus signs . But not there in the,

221:43 the model. OK. So I say that there's a lot of

221:51 um, simplicity in this normal incidence . Our, our trial answer came

221:57 to be very simple. That's uh , but there was, it was

222:02 because we set it up with minus here and, and not there.

222:10 if we had not done it in the right way, we would

222:13 would have got a different answer, we did do it the right

222:17 So we came up with the right which you know, from other,

222:21 or some other work. This is answer. OK. So that was

222:26 for the problem of normal incidents. , that turns out to be a

222:33 easy problem compared to the problem for uh for oblique incidents. So oblique

222:42 , uh uh is most of our as oblique incidents. So let's set

222:47 that problem here. We have exactly same setup here. We have an

222:52 , uh a wave coming in obliquely let's assume for an out for a

222:58 that we're gonna have outgoing waves like . And so then we're gonna have

223:05 uh uh we're gonna have uh solve for two displacements, which is uh

223:11 , the magnitude of U two, magnitude of U one and these angles

223:18 you see here. OK. but that is a statement of the

223:26 and um uh um the solution to problem is gonna be a little bit

223:34 . So let's stop here and break lunch and I'll see you all

223:39 at two o'clock Eastern time and we'll up, uh, uh, of

223:45 these quantities given this definition cause rock of the problem. OK.

223:56 um, that's, that's good. so this is slide 28 out of

224:06 and 20 slides for this lecture. see, we've just scratched the surface

224:10 reflection. So we're gonna pause right where we've set up the problems for

224:15 incident. You can look at uh and see if we set it

224:18 properly. You see, we have um, minus sign here and we

224:25 ac uh minus sign here. maybe we should have had a plus

224:30 here. Oh, well, maybe gonna make up for it with a

224:33 sign here. Uh So, uh think about all that and come back

224:38 it at uh two o'clock, uh some time and then we'll work on

224:42 till six o'clock, uh, and break for a week. So for

224:47 that's where we're gonna stop and I'm stop sharing at this point and I'm

224:52 gonna leave you at this point and gonna go get lunch and maybe you

224:57 your lunch or maybe you're gonna get anyway. Um, I'll see you

225:00 two

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